Re: [OT]: Ping Kevin Aylward - re your "scientific paper"

From: Guy Macon (http://www.guymacon.com)
Date: 09/20/04


Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:49:33 -0700


Don Pearce <donald@pearce.uk.com> says...

>It is not only a lack of clarity - it is your lack of understanding of
>- say - quantum mechanics that is the problem. Here we go with a few
>quotes:
>
>"No Two places at Once
>
>It is often stated that Quantum Mechanics implies that a particle can
>be in two places at the same time. This is false, and at no time has
>any experiment ever been performed that detected co-incidence of the
>same particle in two different positions at once.
>
>The reason for this erroneous notion, is again, due to the non
>existing collapse of the wave function."
>
>Nowhere in quantum mechanics is there a claim that a particle can be
>in two places at once - all you get is a probability field that makes
>no claims about position, until you make a measurement and force a
>collapse into a location - and that is always just one location.
>
>Next quote:
>
>"The collapse of the wave function or reduction of the state vector is
>simple not required in the correct ensemble interpretation, nor is it
>supported experimentally. No experiment has ever measured an object in
>two states simultaneously. Objects have only ever been measured in an
>eigen state, so to postulate that they do is unsupportable
>metaphysics. Objects only exist in eigen states, it is just not known
>which one they are in prior to a measurement. There is arguably,
>little place in physics for notions that cannot, in principle, be
>measured."
>
>Duh! Of course no experiment ever placed an object in two states
>simultaneously - the observation forces a single state. Have you not
>read the books?
>
>If objects only existed in Eigen states, but we didn't know what they
>were until we measured them, then the two slit experiment applied to
>individual photons would yield two bunches of hits, in line with the
>slits. It doesn't - there is interference.
>
>Next quote:
>
>"Schrödinger Cat was introduced to prove that one interpretation of
>the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics was false. It
>achieved this, yet many simply failed to notice. The fact that a cat
>can not be both dead and alive at the same time was simple ignored.
>The reason for this was that the mathematics worked, irrespective of
>the fact that the metaphysical interpretation to the mathematics was
>false. However, the mathematics simply does not require this
>metaphysical add on. "
>
>You've misunderstood - this was always an allegory. The idea was to
>consider the condition of the cat to be included within the wave
>function of the system inside the box. Obviously an object of that
>size collapses the wave function as quickly as any observer, and the
>cat is indeed either dead or alive in any real-world scenario. Imagine
>a putative cat made of a single electron, and you have a better idea
>of what the story is all about.
>
>Will that do for now?

I predict that Kevin will continue to claim that nobody has made a
single comments on the echnical merits of his paper.



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