Re: Winfield Hills thinking about murder
From: John S. Dyson (toor_at_iquest.net)
Date: 10/09/04
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 22:23:59 +0000 (UTC)
In article <2sr191F1jmoohU2@uni-berlin.de>,
Dirk Bruere at Neopax <dirk@neopax.com> writes:
> John S. Dyson wrote:
>
>> In article <2sr072F1nkrv6U1@uni-berlin.de>,
>> Dirk Bruere at Neopax <dirk@neopax.com> writes:
>>
>>>John S. Dyson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <ck96da0ga0@drn.newsguy.com>,
>>>> Winfield Hill <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>God does the killing.
>>>>>
>>>>>A lightning bolt from heaven striking Kerry down, no doubt.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps, perhaps not... Again, why did you think about murder?
>>>>Why is murder so forward in your mind? Have you been associating
>>>>that idea with the current president, President Bush? Are you really
>>>>considering the murder of President Bush? Don't you think that you
>>>>should talk to a psychiatrist first?
>>>
>>>Why does he need an accomplice qualified in psychiatry?
>>>Unless he's going to make Bush face his 'inner demons' (actually, pretty outer
>>>ones at present) in the hope he'll shoot himself out of remorse...
>>>
>>
>> Making someone 'face their inner demons' is not the same thing as the
>> action associated with murdering another human being. It isn't uncommon
>> to show anger short-term, but the long term hatred as being continually
>> regenerated by the hate speech from ignorant people will cause both
>> persistent psychiatric problems and perhaps (in the worse case) even a
>> national emergency.
>
>> Frankly, I doubt that Winfield Hill, John Fields or Fred Bloggs have the
>> courage to murder anyone, but even then, their rational selves will hopefully
>> stop them from doing it. If their hatred is allowed to spiral, then their
>> insanity might overcome their fear, and we all might have some problems.
>>
>> The hate speech on this group is only a small subset of the hatred being
>> genned up by the Democrat party. There have already been numbers
>> physical attacks orchestrated by the Democrat party, and when allegedly
>> 'educated' people are falling prey to hate speech, then there is a serious
>> problem.
>
> Well, shooting presidents seems to be an American hobby.
> I assume it's Leftists shooting Rightist Presidents?
> Or am I wrong?
>
More likely, it is crazy people who kill presidents. Crazy people
with a political agenda are the most frightening. If there is a Kerry
presidency, I am just as worried about crazed far-right wingers as
seeing danger from the growing emotional degeneration in todays left
wing.
Perhaps some of the moderately intelligent people in this newsgroup are
examples of American leftists who have started falling onto the slippery
slope of hate. In some cases, the degeneration seems quite advanced, and
I would personally deem several most extreme Bush haters as being too
non-trustworthy to hold federal or state employment.
This is less-so a left wing problem, but a problem of extremism. Where
both the intellectual and underclass portions of leftism in the US appear
to be vulnerable to destructive hate speech, it does appear that the
most dangerous people on the right mostly would be the underclass. The
equivalent of distrust and dismay against Clintons' proven misbehavior,
is NOT the extremist hatred against GWB. Disgust is NOT the same as
hate, where disgust won't cause progressive emotional damage, but hatred
is an emotion that hurts the person who feels the hate. It is very clear
that several of the anti-Bush advocates in this group are NOT JUST
anti-Bush, but have an overly strong emotional investment that has the
indicators of HATE.
When seeing people like Wilfred who appears to be addicted to hate, that
disappointingly indicates that it is likely that the 'intelligent' leftists
are now emotionally damaged goods. I hope that the potentially polarizing
effects of a Kerry presidency (who is a naturally polarizing figure, even in
private life) don't fully manifest. Remember that the most recent,
pre-president history of GWB was to try to unite rather than JUST divide.
So, a Kerry win in the presidency couldn't solve the problems of division
in the US, but might cause problems like the 1960s, but without the
benefit.
It is NOT advantageous for the general US left wing to take on the
worst attributes of the hillbilly portion of the right wing, but the
left has apparently decided to do so.
John
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