Re: To all disappointed Bush bashers

From: Terry Given (my_name_at_ieee.org)
Date: 11/05/04 

Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:43:52 +1300

Jim Thompson wrote:

> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:09:32 -0800, John Larkin
> <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:
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>>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:59:51 GMT, "Ratch" <Watchit@Comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>2) He is homophobic like I am. Now I believe most of us homophobes would be
>>>understanding and willing to help those unfortunate individuals, because
>>>they have a disorder and perversion. But when the queers contend that their
>>>lifestyle and practices are just another alternative way of living, then no,
>>>my hand is against them.
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>>Why? How does someone else's homosexuality harm you? You behave the
>>way you're wired, and so do they; it's only a toss of the chromosomes
>>that made you straight.
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>>And why do you think W is homophobic? Cheney sure isn't: "The
>>Constitution is for everybody."
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>>John
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> I don't know why we can't settle this with two EQUAL legal
> definitions, marriage for the biblically inclined and civil unions for
> otherwise. Legal rights and benefits EQUAL for ALL.
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Hear Hear! The problem as I see it (we are having exactly the same
debate here in NZ) is that the biblically inclined feel morally obliged
to force their views on the rest of us; to them the idea of such civil
unions is sufficiently abhorrent (despite the fact they dont have to
enter into one unless they choose to) as to warrant its banning.

Over here the conservative christian approach is generally met with a
"*** off dickhead" sort of attitude - hell, 2/3 of our entire
population doesnt believe in god - and they are losing the argument
quite decisively. I suspect its a different story in the US; only time
will tell.

Interestingly enough this evangelical zeal (I love that phrase!) is
often found in greenies (you know, no more coal power stations, no
nukes, no hydro, no wind power, but they still drive an SUV and watch
TV) and public health advocates - you know, that want to tax unhealthy
foods so as to force people to eat what is "good" for them. Personally,
I say let the fat bastards die, or pay for their own medical bills.

Cheers
Terry