Re: BUSH WINS!

robin.pain_at_tesco.net
Date: 11/05/04 

Date: 5 Nov 2004 00:58:15 -0800

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:<228lo0lpnklm2shnv217acp43lgs5djl99@4ax.com>...
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 20:53:40 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
> <f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:
>
> >"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
> >news:o5rko059p7e3ufurdtao9mv9rhlv3mdst8@4ax.com...
>
> >> We'll do the best we can and what we damned well want to and have to
> >> in order to survive and prosper, and we'll struggle with the results
> >> of _our_ decisions regardless of whether the rest of the stupid,
> >> suicidal world around us gives us permission or thinks it's right or
> >> not.
> >
> >Do whatever it takes to keep surviving, but please do it within
> >your own borders.
>
> ---
> Unfortunately, we can't do that any more.
>
> Once upon a time we were neutral and isolationist but, under duress,
> we got involved in our friends' wars and have had to maintain a
> physical, international presence ever since.
> ---
>
> >Okay, the USA lost 2 towers and the unlucky folks
> >that were in it. A *very* unfortunate event.
>
> ---
> "Fortune" had nothing to do with it. An "unfortunate" event is a
> Richter "9" earthquake which wipes out thousands of people. Striking
> the towers was a premeditated act of murder planned and carried out by
> deranged animals against defenseless men, women, and children.
> ---
>
> >How much lives have been (violently) terminated since ? Pakistan AND Iraq?
>
> ---
> I don't know.
> ---
>
> >Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth? What version of the 'Good Book'
> >does Bush read?
>
> ---
> Probably the one that says that, ultimately, he'll be judged and held
> accountable for his actions during his time here on Earth.
>
> The eye-for-an-eye and tooth-for-a-tooth thing is a little more
> difficult to address, but here's something I found on the web:
>
> "The phrase an "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" comes from
> Exodus 21:23-25, so it is part of the Christian Bible as well as the
> Jewish Torah. The school of Hillel (an ancient Jewish rabbi) opposed
> the use of this verse to justify private vengeance. It is probably
> best understood as an instruction to make the punishment fit the crime
> and not succumb to the temptation to "one-uppance." Left to their own
> devices, people are inclined to answer bad with worse (e.g., "If you
> poke out my eye I?ll poke out both of yours."). The Torah (the Five
> Books of Moses) tell us here that we are not entitled to any more than
> has been taken from us. To refrain from responding to evil with
> greater evil is only the beginning of righteousness. Jesus showed the
> way to more positive righteousness when he admonished us to return
> good for evil. (Matthew 5:38)."
> ---
>
> >Tell me, dear John, tell me. If you know the answer. I'd like to know.
>
> ---
> The answer is to stop trying to fix the blame and to start trying to
> fix the mistakes.

What a cracking good post, but I don't know why you bother; the Left
will grind you down with boredom sooner or later.

Cheers
Robin

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