Re: OT AUSSIE UNIONS

From: Jim Thompson (thegreatone_at_example.com)
Date: 11/06/04 

Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 19:30:19 -0700

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 02:23:58 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:

>
>"John Crighton" <john_c@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
><snip>
>>
>> I get the impression that your opinions of the union movement
>> are based on experiences many decades ago. if I am wrong, I
>> apologise but thanks for sharing them.
>
>You are SOOOO wrong!
>
>The recent abuses have been this year, and everyone in Southern California
>knows about it.
>
>Does the TERM "At Will" mean anything to you?
>
>All Employees in California are classified as "At WILL" employees unless they
>have a labor contract. Anyone make agree to a contract if BOTH parties are
>willing. A Union is not needed to negotiate a labor contract. But of course
>Labor unions insist on a contract since that is where they get their power.
>
>Most employees are not covered by a contract and they may, without penalty
>choose to leave at any time. Consequently any employer with "At will"
>employees may dismiss any employee. They customarily give some notice or pay in
>lieu of notice. A Union employee can only be dismissed in accordance with the
>contract terms. Often nearly impossible! The friction and rancor caused when
>it is necessary to dismiss a union employee is very damaging to company's
>efficient operation and often costly. So no employer wants to associate with
>a union.
>
>The unions having bought certain government people by financing their elections
>have make it the law to allow a union to force a company to allow a union to
>represent the employees whether all of the employees want the union or not!
>This also makes it a adversarial situation and many good employees will leave
>rather than put up with the unions interference. This leaves the mediocre
>employees to be the sole source of labor for a company since the brightest and
>best move on. The unions only measure for pay increases is seniority, not
>productivity, or innovation. So anyone with any decent ability is severally
>penalized by the presence of a union.
>
>Now, what was this crap about how good a union is?
>
>
>
>Clarence
>
>BTW: I am not going away!
>

                                        ...Jim Thompson 

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