Re: OT: Scott Ridder on Fallujah

From: Bill Sloman (bill.sloman_at_ieee.org)
Date: 11/11/04 

Date: 11 Nov 2004 02:54:16 -0800

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:<3lq4p0pseiq6l90kovpph3ne5bvq2vi8ji@4ax.com>...
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:10:11 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
> <f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:
>
> >"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
> >news:dol4p0t5lfluc2m9u34qlf403ro5l530re@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:27:13 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
> >> <f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> >You have no fucking brains at all, now do you, when there is
> >> >the tiniest amount of critism about this war. You're a piece
> >> >of programmed american patriotic ***, no less.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> And you, Frank?
> >
> >There are an increasing number of idiots here as well. Few
> >seem to understand how to deal with terrorists - and that is
> >not violently kill them, but should be focussed on taking
> >away their incentives that drive them.
>
> ---
> What drives them is the love they have for their leaders, but what
> drives their leaders is just plain old greed and lust for power and
> hatred for anyone who opposes their getting what they want.
  
We are talking about your relationship with Dubbya here, aren't we

> Kind of like liberals; spoiled children run amuck. What they really want is
> the utter destruction of everything that doesn't fit into their narrow
> viewpoint of who's OK in their book,

Dubbya, as his father's son, really wanted to stick it to Saddam
Hussein, and has exploited his high position to waste a large number
of American lives (and a much larger number of Iraki lives) and a
great deal of money to satisfy this childish ambition. It hasn't done
a thing to improve U.S. security - in fact, by encouraging disgruntled
Arabs to sign on with Al Qaeda, it has probably increased the risk of
second 11/7.

> and that's you, Frank, and it's
> me, and it's everyone else who has what they resent, a life.
> Basically, they have nothing except their pitiful lives, so what can
> be taken away from them to make them stop? You figure it out.
> ---

In Dubbya's case, the high office. You just blew it.
 
> >The US is driving them up the wall. The US only increases
> >terrorism and extremist muslim behaviour.
>
> ---
> No, it's always been there, like a nasty boil that's been festering
> for years, waiting to come to the surface. All we're doing is
> bringing it to a head so we can get rid of it.
> ---

That's your theory. To the rest of us it is just a routine case of
fools rushing in where angels fear to tread.
 
> >> When there's the tiniest amount of disagreement with what you consider
> >> the right way for the US to conduct its military affairs you're more
> >> than ready to denounce anyone who dares to have an opinion different
> >> from yours.
> >
> >The tiniest???? This is 180 degrees opposite ***.
> >
> >> Wait 'til a few more of your van Goghs get murdered for daring to
> >> voice anti-Islamic points of view and maybe, just maybe, you'll begin
> >> to realize that this isn't an American war, it just seems like it is
> >> because most of the rest of you chickenshits would rather just sit
> >> around and pretend that you're so above-it-all while someone else does
> >> your dirty work for you.
> >
> >It will soon not be an American war anymore, that's right. It's
> >spreading like a new virus.
>
> ---
> What's happened is that the virus is now wise to the fact that it's
> been found out and it's trying to kill its host before we can figure
> out how to get rid of it.
> ---

Neglecting the fact that the "virus" in Irak was only killing Irakís,
and nowhere near as many of them as you have done for, and your
pointless invasion has now dispersed it around the world where it
threatens to become an epidemic which you don't seem to have clue how
to control - talk about opening Pandora's box ....
 
> >> "Sorry, Uncle Sam, we can't help you right now but call us when the
> >> bread is baked and we'll help you to eat it"...

Theo van Gogh got to eat some of the bread you baked, as did a bunch
of Spanish commuters earlier this year, and some Australian tourists
on Bali in 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_terrorist_bombing).

We'd much prefer not to be sharing the results of your rash adventure.

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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