Re: OT: Scott Ridder on Fallujah

From: Rich The Philosophizer (null_at_example.net)
Date: 11/12/04


Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:04:58 GMT

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:42:27 -0600, John Fields wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:57:18 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
>>On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:16:19 -0600, John Fields wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:03:05 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
>>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:59:44 -0600, John Fields wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:57:40 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
>>>>>>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> schreef in
>>>>>>> After they clean out Fallujah, maybe some of them can help out in The
>>>>>>> Hague.
>>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3998347.stm
>>>>>>It's all quiet now. No help needed. No doubt we are going to
>>>>>>see more of these events, all being the result of that
>>>>>>brilliant stategy towards terrorism, led by Bush.
>>>>> As opposed to the Bemelman strategy, which is "Teach 'em to play nice
>>>>> by appeasing 'em."?
>>>>I guess the idea of "don't go on a killing rampage in these folks'
>>>>home town" has never occurred to anybody.
>>> I guess the idea of keeping it from happening in yours has never
>>> occurred to you.
>>
>>Well, you guess wrong, you numbskull. I keep it from happening in my
>>home town by refraining from initiating killing rampages half-way
>>around the world. Or next door, for that matter.
>
> ---
> I don't know whether you'll be able to understand the parallel, but
> let's say that there are a couple of gangs of thugs in your home town
> who have been fighting amongst themselves for quite some time but, for
> some reason, have now started to attack ordinary non-gang citizens.
> At first the losses seem tragic but sadly acceptable for the sake of
> maintaining the "peace", but as the virulence and number of attacks
> increase, a threshold is crossed where physical retaliation becomes
> warranted and the town takes up arms against the thugs.

Yes, I see your point, surprise, surprise.

Now.

Consider, the gangs aren't a block away down the street, but are in
their own country, playing the old religion game. And you decide to
go on an excursion, and, Oh! Imagine my surprise! You've decided to
take your excursion right into the middle of somebody else's battle.
In somebody else's neighborhood, in somebody else's home, in somebody
else's COUNTRY, YOU IDIOT!

Now, you seem to be claiming that, given these circumstances, you
_still_ have the delusion that somehow, by plopping your fat
neoconservative ass down in the middle of _their_ country, that
now, by gawdknows what process, you are suddenly the owner of
that territory, who has the Divine Edict to impose your will
on them, IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU BLOCKHEAD!

_YOU_ are the _INVADER!_

If you continue to refuse to observe the plain facts that are
obvious to sane people around the planet, then it is clear that
you have made your decision to put yourself amongst the
rest of the sheeple, who think killing people 10,000 miles
away is somehow rationalizable.

I was gonna say, may god have mercy on your soul, but since it
is blazingly clear that you have made the decision to feed your
soul to evil, then I have no choice but to let you go into your
master's waiting maw.

Good Luck? Hah!

You've made your choice.

Choose life as a way of life, or choose death as a way of life -
it doesn't really matter to the skin off my nose, because I,
being the paragon of self-righteousness that I am, know, somehow,
in the deepest core of my being, that being alive is, in some, so
far unknown, intangible way, better than being dead. It must be,
or why else would people (and every other living thing) want to
hang onto it so tenaciously?

And according to my philosophy, Not Killing People is somehow,
intangibly, indefinably "Better" than Killing People. It's
probably an artifact of my own supreme selfishness, but it is
this selfishness which, all of its own accord, has led me to
the conclusion that Live People Are Better Customers Than Dead
People Are.

So, go join your lord of death, and just exactly when that
happens is really out of my hands.

As if you need my permission.

Thanks,
Rich



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