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From: R. Steve Walz (rstevew_at_armory.com)
Date: 11/21/04
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:56:17 GMT
Tom Seim wrote:
>
> "R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message news:<419EC733.56E7@armory.com>...
> > Mark Fergerson wrote:
> > >
> > > R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > >
> > > >>> That's what I was trying to tell RSW. It's approaching
> > > >>> the situation with royalty in the U.K. and other countries
> > > >>> that maintain them for show.
> > >
> > > I can see a day when those genetically predisposed to
> > > excessive wealth acquisition are kept in elaborately gilded
> > > cages, smirkingly waited upon hand and foot and bowed and
> > > scraped to, just to keep them out of everyone else's way.
> > > Come to think of it, it's already happening...
> > --------------------------------
> > All it takes is to make theft of all types illegal and unfair wealth
> > acquisition simply won't be allowed. If these idiots want to work
> > every hour of every day so that they have no time to enjoy what they
> > earn, and they can buy unperishable wealth items of value that they
> > have no time to enjoy, they should probably be made to see a pshrink.
>
> Ok, what's the maximum wealth that you would permit?
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No owning land, democratic control of all land except residential.
Everyone is entitled to own their home and compound. No sale of
homes, only trade straight across through the aegis of the State
if one desires to relocate.
No owning corporate factories or any industrial equipment except
what you can pursue on your residential compound. No owning stocks
or bonds, no savable money, all exchange is in terms of labor hours
rendered to the State for basic commodities and consumer items.
All grown and made products are rendered to the State for their
agreed labor hours credit amortized over the whole of each product.
If it takes a total of 300 labor hours to make 3000 widgets from
materials mined or harvested to parts composing it, to the final
assemblage, then each costs a tenth of an hour. Unless crippled,
veryone is required to work the democratically agreed minimum hours
to meet basic needs or else they don't eat and it is illegal to even
feed them.
If they want more they sign up for more labor hours over their
minimum, with which to buy consumer items. The only wealth that
would even be possible is in personal property. Used items can be
freely traded at weekly local flea markets.
The State mandates that repair parts be available indefinitely for
anything at cost. If you can make something the rest of us want on
your compound then you can petition to work at home, and be paid for
supplies and tools as well, but otherewise you work at a publically
owned factory or farm.
If you want something and can find enough other people who do you
can get the State to assign labor credit to anyone who wants to make
that item at an agreed exchange rate based on how long other skilled
workers in similar fields agree it would cost in hours of labor.
Everything of this sort is decided locally at the Society meeting
twice a week by whomever shows up to do it. People are lenient
with each other because they want support for their own desires
as well.
You order things before they are produced, and they aren't produced
for your order unless you order them. If we all decide we have enough
stuff for a month or two, we go home and pursue our hobbies after our
minimum hour jobs until enough people want new things. They literally
arrange with others who ALSO want more "stuff" to make it for one
another, via the computerized ordering system between factories that
records all orders for manufacture and all labor hour credit. High
ticket items can be partly paid in advance by labor and partly by
promised future labor, time payment out of your wage to save storage
costs. If you don't work the hours, you forfeit the item till you
do.
All this can be done quite locally in terms of a govt of perhaps
only 5000 people either at public meetings or over the Net. Larger
governance are done via the Net or by study committees that report
back to everyone for grassroots approval.
-Steve
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