Re: Software for a beginner to design and learn about circuits with?

From: classd101 (c_bielek_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 11/30/04 

Date: 30 Nov 2004 11:20:58 -0800

Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com> wrote in message news:<10qp620iur0b4ed@corp.supernews.com>...
> David L. Jones wrote:
> >
> >Kevin Aylward wrote:
> >
ssssssnip
> In addition to the generic human-interface problems that plague
> most software, SuperSpice has an additional albatross around its
> neck; the author. Kevin Aylward is well-known for treating anyone
> who disagrees with him like dirt. He engages in personal attacks
> rather than reasoned discourse. If he treats other newsgroup
> participants that way, imagine how he treats a paying customer who
> dares to question his decision to map most functions to top-level
> on-screen buttons with single letters instead of descriptive names!
> The good news is that my killfile filters out all of his abuse,
> including the personal attack that will, no doubt, be launched in
> response to this criticism.

Here's my two cents, I'm sure I'll get change.

1. Simulators are invaluable when and only when :
A. They're worth their salt.
B. They're properly used. This means in conjuction with actual lab
work to verify the simulation and see how real world results differ
from simulation land. This is how electronics are now taught in school
these days, in case anyone didn't know.

Now if you have a crap simulator like ooooh... MultiSim, who seems to
subscribe to the Windows theory of point, click, and keep stupid..ex:
the virtual scopes are real cute and everything but the first time you
get an iteration limit error you're left scratching your head and you
wind up spending far more time futally learning how to use a buggy,
overpriced little program than learning electronics.

I think it irresponsible to the extreme for anyone to recommend to a
person who's aspirations are to become a hobbiest, to run out and
purchase >$20K worth of equipment, when they won't even have a clue
what they're buying, or how to use it.

If words like transiant or iteration are too complex, give up now.

Start with a simulator, gain a bit of confidence with tutorials, help
files, small personal projects, then, go buy some parts, start small
and work up.

I'd also like to say it's high time posts here stopped being polluted
with off topic personal attacks against other members who are here to
contribute and help others. You asked for it, and got put in your
place, time ya got over it. Kevin has a private email address, use
that to tell him you love him, nobody else gives a *** what your
personal feelings are, and it won't gain you any respect here.

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