Re: OT: Let's Take the Religion out of Christmas

From: Kevin Aylward (salesEXTRACT_at_anasoft.co.uk)
Date: 01/06/05 

Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:49:28 GMT

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:36:14 +0000, Kevin Aylward wrote:
>
>> Richard the Dreaded Liberal wrote:
>>> On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 19:32:44 +0000, Clarence_A wrote:
>>>> "Keith Williams" <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote in message
>>>> They are
>>>>> *not* free to choose (state) legislative apportionment in any
>>>> manner
>>>>> they see fit.
>>>>
>>>> Actually the may since the US Constitution clearly gives only the
>>>> states the right to define the process of their elections!
>>>
>>> Clarence, you appear to be misinformed.
>>>
>>> No Constitution "gives" anybody any rights. All rights are inherent.
>>
>> No they are not. No one has any "rights" at all. A right given is a
>> right taken.
>>
>>>
>>> Let me say that again, in case you didn't get it:
>>>
>>> All rights are inherent. You are born with them. You have them
>>> because you are a live human. Constitutions do not "give" you your
>>> rights. You have them automatically.
>>
>> Let me that again, in case you didn't get it:
>>
>> We exist in this universe subject to a Darwinain process. Thats it.
>> End of story.
>>
>> There is no point, plan, reason, purpose, justice, rights, for any of
>> us. We just are.
>
> Then, by your own logic, the very concept of "rights" that can or
> can't be "granted", is meaningless.
>
> And I still want to see some kind of independently verifiable "proof"
> of your assertions, other than a circular argument, which boils down
> to, "It's that way because I said so."

Its not about "proof" its about evidence in support of a proposition.
The evidence in support of evolution is overwhelming.

Continuing to claim that the logic is circular does not make it any more
so. Indeed, all you do is continually ignore the evidence then simply
*claim* it hasn't been presented.

>
> Kevin, if you really, truly believe, in the deepest core of your
> being, that you have no will at all, then I can do nothing but weep
> for your infinite loss.

Please do, as you have no choice in the matter.

Quite frankly Rich, your a fruitcake.

Kevin Aylward
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