Re: Exportability of EDA industry from North America?

From: Stuart Brorson (sdb_at_cloud9.net)
Date: 01/16/05 

Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:25:16 -0000

In sci.electronics.cad Ales Hvezda <ahvezda@seul.org> wrote:
: Hi,

: I usually like spending my free time working on the code rather than
: posting to USENET, but I want to address some of the points from the
: previous poster in this thread.

Now that's something extraordinary! The main creator of gEDA responds
to a bug report on Usenet! When was the last time you saw a developer
for Orcad respond to any bug report?

So what was that complaint about F/OSS lacking support??. . . . .

[. . . snip! . . . ]

: I followed the INSTALLs and READMEs that
: can be found at:

: http://geda.seul.org/download.html

: The only change I made was to add /usr/local/lib into ld.so.conf
: (and re-ran ldconfig).

This is an intersting observation; this library is a standard library
to store .so files. Why doesn't RedHat already have this in
ld.so.conf? Also, I have never had to do this. Is this a
libstroke-only thing? I should look into this; I can easily add
/usr/local/lib to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH at the start of the install
program.

[. . . snip . . . ]

: Hmmm, on my newly installed RedHat 9.0 system, gtk+ 2.0 is in
: fact called gtk+-2.0, i.e. the following works:

Yeah, I've never seen them called anything other than this. If your
distro calls them something else, it's a problem with your distro.

Not that that excuses a failed install. Rather, the capability to
configure for this name for GTK should be built into the installer.
Again, what is your distro, and where did you get it? Can you point
to web documentation about this change to GTK? I'd like to
check into this oddity.

:> The first time I ran the CDROM install, it built and installed the
: symbols
:> libraries at least 20 times before I killed the process. (I was
: getting
:> curious as to why it was taking so long, and why every hour or so I
: would
:> look at it and it was building the symbols yet again.)

: Yes, I observed this as well and it is a bug. However, if you
: let it run, it will eventually finish (it did for me). I have a pretty
: good idea why this is happening. Stuart and I will fix this for the
: next rev of the suite CD.

This occurred because the installer configured each program
individually, and each program had the symbols in its dependency
tree. Therefore, the symbols were blindly rebuilt for each program in
the suite. If you had let the program churn along (as it says in the
README), you would have eventually gotten through this.

Anyway, we will change the way dependencies are handled in the next
build. We take real, substantive, detailed bug reports seriously;
fixing issues which users notice is how F/OSS is hardened over time.

Stuart

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