Re: Programming for Electronics Engineers
From: Rene Tschaggelar (none_at_none.net)
Date: 01/16/05
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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:39:19 +0100
John Larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:18:43 +0000, Danny T <danny@nospam.oops> wrote:
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>
>>mc wrote:
>>
>>>The starter pack for Visual C# or Visual Basic (about $99) is very nice and
>>>gives you the full power of the .NET Framework.
>>
>>Is that like a cut down version of Visual Studio?
>>
>>I use VS at work, but I've grown fond of the new Express packages.
>>They're lightweight and fast, though still beta (and using the next
>>version of the framework):
>>
>>http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/
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>
>
> You have to realize that guys like Jim and I are fulltime circuit
> designers. We have an infinite, unlearnable amount of stuff to keep up
> with in our own field, and all the work we can handle, often more. If
> we do want to write a program to do some math, we need to do it
> quickly, without spending a couple years getting up to speed in .NET
> and C++ classes and stuff like that. We're solving math problems, so
> user interface isn't important. The only eye candy that's really
> useful to us is graphing data so we can get a feel for the dynamics of
> a system, and even then we can dump a comma-delimited file to a
> grapher program. Some of the stuff I do is very compute intensive, so
> a pig like Visual Basic would be unusable. So what we need is a
> simple, quick, easy to learn and easy to use language that runs fast.
> And, at least for me, can do hardware i/o without requiring me to
> write device drivers.
>
> I think pRogramming should be the fourth 'R' of basic education,
> something everybody can do. Modern OS's have gone a long way to making
> programming something only pros have time to learn.
>
> If I wanted to spend serious hours learning a new computer skill, it
> would be learning Linux.
John,
I'm in the same situation and found Delphi(successor of
Turbopascal) very easy to use and remember. The driver part
is not doable. I thus was never able to write a PCI driver,
but use serial, serial_over_USB (aka virtual comport), and
Ethernet.
I'm glad my idustrial customers have no intention yet to
move to WinXP, nor DotNet.
Rene
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