Re: OT: Is this where they get new Neocons?

From: Richard the Dreaded Libertarian (eatmyshorts_at_doubleclick.net)
Date: 01/21/05


Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:12:43 GMT

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:03:27 -0700, Mark Fergerson wrote:
> Mark Jones wrote:
>> Mark Fergerson wrote:
>>>Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:02:31 -0700, Mark Fergerson wrote:
>>>>>Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
>>>>>>On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:03:16 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:35:17 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
>>>>>>>>This is one of the entrance tests to join the NeoCons, right?
>>>>>>>>http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20050116/NEWS/101160001
>>>>> You have your own x-ray machine?
>>>>Better! I have a sensory system! My body itself would tell me there's
>>> Wrong. Your body would tell you the same things his did, that you had

>> I seem to think that a 4" nail stuck through one's lip and into the
>> roof of their mouth ought to hurt like hell... were his teeth so bad
>> that that this felt common?
>
> Don't know about his teeth. Ever have a power tool kick back and
> whack you? Hurts like hell for a while, subsides to a dull ache (if you
> didn't break anything important, sometimes even if you do).

Well, I've never had a NAIL GUN kick back and fire a nail into me, no.
>
>> Couldn't he feel around there and touch the metal head of the nail?
>
> Seems to have imbedded itself below the gum tissue. As I mentioned,
> likely hard to see in a mirror. And, why would he look for an entry
> wound if he didn't suspect one, especially as it means prying around
> very tender places?

This is precisely my point. I _do_ go probe around very tender places. A
few years ago, I tried to abruptly quit drinking alcohol. I had seizures.
Very, very weird experience. Well, after this one seizure, I awoke to find
myself sitting on the floor, with a co-worker blotting my head. He claimed
that he thought I cracked my head on the floor, but I reached up, and felt
- palpated - my head, and I had a gouge in my scalp. It was obvious to me
that I had hit the corner of the machine on the way down.

And the whole point of my tirade is the unfeelingness that it would take
to either A: ignore a horrendous injury like that or B: swallow either
political dogma and be an obedient little minion.

>> For that matter, didn't he think to examine the damage caused to his
>> lip while operating a pneumatic nailer? A hole through your lip ought
>> to get you thinking, or at least looking very closely.
>
> Not too closely; remember the "hurts like hell" part? Do _you_ poke
> around recent wounds? Ever have a nurse debride a small cut with a
> toothbrush and no anaesthetic?

Well, I had a sore on my penis once that I had to debride about three
times a day. And, as I've reported, I've never shot myself in the head
with a nail gun, but I _do_ at least ascertain the extent of my injuries.
I didn't poke around much that time my hand went through a car window and
opened the base of my thumb all the way down to the bone - that one was
pretty obvious. But yeah - there's been damage, what do we need to do to
fix it?

>> Didn't his mouth bleed? Didn't he taste rusty metal?
>
> Mouth wounds tend to clot and close quickly. Why would a new nail
> taste rusty?
>
>> And did it go through the nasal cavity? Any nosebleeds? Constant pain?
>
> Apparently not.
>
>> Very unlucky dude. Still, it could have been worse.
>
> Easily, on both counts.
>
> BTW I say many of these ameliorating things from experience. Don't ask.

How about that famous story about the guy who got a tamping-iron through
his whole frontal lobe? I guess his personality changed. I don't remember
the name, but he shows up on Ripley and the like from time to time.

Thanks,
Rich



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