Re: Peterson's Death Sentence

From: John Fields (jfields_at_austininstruments.com)
Date: 01/31/05 

Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:34:25 -0600

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:14:24 +0000 (UTC), Willem <willem@stack.nl>
wrote:

>John wrote:
>) Ah, _but_ if they interact... Miracles, in my view, are
>) extra-universal manifestations and, if they exist, point to something
>) extraordinary which we _should_ care about. (Well, those of us who
>) _do_ care about such interesting things, at any rate)...
>
>If they do interact, then that must either mean that some things *inside*
>our universe (those miracles) are *not* bound by the laws of our universe,
>or that those interactions *are* bound by these laws. 

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Not necessarily.  Since the manifestations of the miracles persist
after the occurrence of the miracles, (Lazarus, for instance, seems to
have become a normal human suject to our natural laws after having
been raised from the dead.) it may mean that our laws can be locally
manipulated by extra-universal entities in ways which we can't fathom.
---
 
>Origins aside, do you believe that there are things *inside* our universe
>that are _not_ bound by its laws ?
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I don't know if there _are_ but I suspect there can be.
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>) But as John Woodgate so succinctly put it, (and I'm paraphrasing) if
>) you want to argue about something which is beyond logic, you can't
>) argue using logic. 
>
>If you can't argue using logic, and arguing by necessity uses logic,
>then you can't argue, period.
>
>Do you believe it is possible to argue without using logic ?
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You've answered your own question, it seems, so why ask me?
-- 
John Fields

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