Re: OT: Home PCs Predict Hotter Earth
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Date: 02/02/05
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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:24:41 -0500
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 12:00:13 +0000, Terry Pinnell wrote:
> Active8 <reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 03:23:12 GMT, gwhite wrote:
>>
>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan Kirwan wrote...
>>>>>
>>>>> Each of the hottest 15 years on record have been since 1980.
>>>>
>>>> Where can we read more about that, which record, how long?
>>>
>>> It is not here:
>>>
>>> http://mitosyfraudes.8k.com/INGLES/Warm.html
>>
>>Thanks. I've been reading that long article and find it very
>>interesting and yet disturbing.
>
> I took a quick look and to be blunt dismissed it pretty quickly.
Better check your life raft for sevicability or put pontoons under
the house, Noah ;)
>
> One acid test I apply to stuff I suspect as 'lightweight' is simply to
> put it through a spell-checker.
IME spell-checkers return a lot of words they don't know.
> That article was full of careless
> mistakes. Now, I imagine it's quite hard to get an article
> *peer-reviewed*. But a spell-check? Come on! What's your opinion of an
> author who apparently expects his work to be taken seriously, yet
> doesn't even check it before publication?
Noted.
I did notice a lot of unnecessary hyphens, now that you mention it.
Maybe it was originally text with CR/LFs that was pasted into an
HTML editor and it wrapped, leaving the hyphens in the wrong place..
I don't recall any gross misspelling. I'll pay more attention to
that as I finish the article.
In this case (he's citing references) I'd prefer examples of
incorrect statements. Maybe someone else read it and will comment.
>
> For my money, the 'solid' inputs so far are:
>
> - the original article published in the highly respected 'Nature', as
> I said in my opener
But that article was in "Wired" where it only mentions results
published in "Nature". It was an article about computing.
I read in the paper that 50 animal rights activists showed up at the
SPCA to keep a dog from being put down. Guess what? I knew those
people and they were just helping out the guy that found the dog.
There was only one bona-fide activist there. She's been banned from
a State Fairs for her demonstrations at agricultural exhibits. The
dog was transfered to a different SPCA where the rules allowed it to
be adopted, not put down.
At least one of the statements he ( in gwhites ref) made that
contradicts whole global warming claim came from the same
publication, in fact, I count 10 references to articles in "Nature"
under "NOTES AND REFERENCES".
>
> - the follow-up Jonathan was able to obtain from the project's
> coordinator, Dave Frame.
Dave Frame sounded displeased with the way his qualifying statements
were not published. I read the page at climateprediction.net where
the GCM model is discussed. It's clearly stated that they are not
sure about the correctness of the parameterization of the models. I
hope I didn't paraphrase that in a way that changes the meaning,
however slight.
How can we get at the truth if editors and such are fouling things
up? I'd really like to look up my old physics/chem/FORTRAN Prof. He
was head of the Physics and Atmospheric Sciences Dept at Drexell U.
> -------
>
> BTW, I see the debate hots up further today <g>:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4228411.stm
> "A team of UK researchers claims to have new evidence that global
> warming is melting the ice in Antarctica faster than had previously
> been thought."
All of his reminds me of Buckminster Fuller's "Spaceship Planet
Earth" where he claims that scientists took power from the pirates
who originally held power over propped-up kings.
Maybe today the media is in power. The 4th (is it?) estate.
-- Best Regards, Mike
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