Re: Transmission line-like resonances at ~30MHz

From: John Larkin (jjlarkin_at_highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com)
Date: 02/10/05


Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:07:40 -0800

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 07:35:14 -0800, Chris Carlen
<crcarle@BOGUS.sandia.gov> wrote:

>Joel Kolstad wrote:
>> I have a design on an FR-4 PCB that has a few long traces on it, about 12"
>> each. When I examine those trace's responses on a network analyzer, they
>> have significant (>15dB) dips at 30MHz, then 90MHz, 150MHz, etc... this led
>> me to suspect that the traces were behaving like quarter wave transformers
>> (the traces have various components connected to them, but they're all
>> supposed to be pretty high impedances), but if I assume an effective
>> dielectric constant of ~2.35,
>
>
>I think FR-4 has mu_r = 4.7

Programs like Txline and Appcad will compute effective dielectric
constant. The classic 50-ohm microstrip on 0.062 FR4 has Eeff of about
3.4. Skinnier traces tend to be lower.

John



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