Re: OT: reaction to Iraqi elections

From: richard mullens (mullensdeletethis_at_ntlworld.com)
Date: 02/13/05 

Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:27:06 GMT

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:59:46 +0000, richard mullens wrote:
>
>
>>Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>
> ...
>
>>>http://www.un.org/secureworld/report2.pdf page 51-52 (pdf page
>>>183-184)
>>>
>>>It requires an *intent* to seriously injure or kill non-combatants or
>>>civilians *in order to* intimidate a population or compel a government
>>>or an international organization to act or not act.
>>>
>>
>>It is a useful way of defining a particular phenomenon and starts as follows:-
>>
>>The definition of terrorism should include the following elements:
>>a) recognition, in the preamble, that State use of force against
>>civilians is regulated by the Geneva Conventions and other
>>instruments, and, if of sufficient scale, constitutes a war
>>crime by the persons concerned or a crime against humanity.
>
>
> This doesn't belong under any kind of "terrorist" or "anti-terrorist"
> banner - this is supposed to be fundamental to the Declaration of
> Independence and the Constitution.
>
> As far as other countries, isn't that really an internal affair? If
> people don't like a dictator, aren't they suposed to overthrow him
> themselves?
>

Well, I was reporting on what the UN document said.
Evidently the UN wishes to say that States too can commit crimes. There is no carte blanche just because one is a state. I
suspect that they see some sort of parallel between terrorism as they define it and the actions of some democracies.

I think that the description above also includes the situation when one state operates outside its own borders. I can't see any
reason for excluding that situation.

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