Re: Save the Hubble

From: John Larkin (jjSNIPlarkin_at_highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX)
Date: 02/13/05 

Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:11:53 -0800

On 13 Feb 2005 14:41:42 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

>
>John Larkin wrote:
>> It would seem to me that using the best available components in one's
>> weapons is precisely what leadership is about.
>
>If the US lead the world in science and technology, then they'd
>scarcely need to go to Germany for the best gun, or England for the
>best armour.
>

Leadership doesn't mean one does *everything* better than everyone
else. You are trashing the US precisely because there are some things
that others do well; Germany is where to go for expertise in killing.

You're not being reasonable. But I guess reason pales before hatred.

>And your systems have been tested on antique Russian tanks in Irak,
>where the Abrams' thirsty habits didn't happen to give you serious
>problems.

What other good targets are available?

>> >The only place where the U.S. does seem to have a secure lead is in
>> >parochial conceit,
>>
>> So, who has a better tanks, or planes, or submarines? Facts are not
>> conceit.
>
>I very much hope that we never find out who has the best tanks, planes
>or submarines - they are all quite good enough to kill an inordinate
>number of people, and undo twenty or thirty years worth of investment
>in infra-structure.

One of the functions of weaponry is deterrance. As, for example, kept
the Russians out of Europe. But if you add up the responsibility for
infrastructure destruction in the last 100 years, I doubt the US would
be topping the list. Who was it that invented "total war" anyhow? Who
perfected civilian terror bombing in Spain? Who leveled Dresden?
Remember The Gulag, The Great Leap Forward, The Killing Fields, Korea,
the Rape of Manchuria, Rwanda, Uganda? I guess not. Of if you do, I'm
sure it was all the US's fault.

>I note that you do not seem to want to boast about the US public health
>indices,

Shockingly enough, that's not my mission in life.

>where direct comparisons are possible - they don't exactly put
>the US in a leading position.

That wasn't the subject. When you lose one argument for bashing the
US, I guess you just switch to another. Since you are still unwilling
to think and discuss without blaming, I guess I'll go back to ignoring
you.

John

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