Re: OT: reaction to Iraqi elections
From: richard mullens (mullensdeletethis_at_ntlworld.com)
Date: 02/15/05
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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:03:42 GMT
John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:41:29 GMT, richard mullens
> <mullensdeletethis@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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>>John Larkin wrote:
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>>>On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:42:38 GMT, richard mullens
>>><mullensdeletethis@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>Yes, but dissent anywhere can cause you to come to grief at the hands of the authorities,
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>>>>>Not in the US, unless you are violent or don't pay your taxes.
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>>>>>John
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>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Rector
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>>>USA People's park
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>>>"Protesters threw rocks and bottles."
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>>>If I was a cop with 6000 brats marching on me throwing rocks and
>>>bottles, I might back off a bit on my idea of civil liberties.
>>>
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>>Maybe, but I'm just illustrating that when the people come up against the state, the people get shot.
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> If you define "come up against the state" as threatening a cop with
> serious bodily harm, you might well expect to be shot. Seems fair to
> me.
>
You're entitled to believe that in a dispute over land, the state is entitled to shoot people.
I guess that those who ordered the tanks into Tiannamen square also felt that what they were doing was fair.
The events are obviously not equivalent, but there is a parallel I feel. I don't believe that it was America's finest hour.
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