Re: Save the Hubble

From: Spehro Pefhany (speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat)
Date: 02/25/05


Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:51:09 -0500

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:45:28 -0800, the renowned "Mathieu Fregeau"
<mfregeau@u.washington.edu> wrote:

>
>"Keith Williams" <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote in message
>news:MPG.1c890a91af5f576b989948@news.individual.net...
>> In article <g7kq11142o7scaq3egfdssi90ldhavc91k@4ax.com>,
>> speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat says...
>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:48:29 -0500, the renowned keith
>>> <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:17:18 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Mathieu Fregeau" <mfregeau@u.washington.edu> wrote in
>>> >> news:cvilae$vm0$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu:
>>> >>
>>> >>> If you can give $2 billion to NASA, they will save Hubble. Money is
>>> >>> the only reason why they don't do it.
>>> >>
>>> >> No,it's the fear of another loss of a Shuttle and crew.
>>> >
>>> >Exactly. It's politics, not money. Any monitary considerations were
>>> >decided by politics *long* ago.
>>>
>>> AFAIUI, there's only a couple of shuttles left in flyable condition
>>> (Atlantis and Discovery). Pretty much the end game on the shuttle.
>>
>> What happened to Endeavour? According to NASA it's still operational.
>>
>> http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/resources/orbiters/orbiters.html
>
>Yea, Endeavor, like Atlantis and Discovery, are the remaining space
>shuttles. NASA has reviewed the engineering and safety issues on the
>remaining space shuttles, and that's why they had delayed the space shuttle
>use. Don't you follow the news?
>
>Those space shuttle were designed to be used and maintained until 2020, but
>after the Columbia accident, they decided to stop their use by 2010 and use
>a new generation (which they currently are developping). I guess they will
>use the new generation until 2040 or 2050 (since the actual space shuttle
>program has been in use since 1981, and by 2010 will make a 30 years
>service, the new generation would be assumed to run for 30 or 40 years too).
>The challenge with the new generation is to make their use less expensive.
>The actual shuttle cost about $100M per mission, they want to reduce it
>close to $10M per mission with the new generation. That's what a called an
>engineering challenge

This NASA web site claims almost half a billion dollars per mission.

http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/pao/faq/faqanswers.html

IIRC, the cost of shuttle missions ended up being about way higher
than initial estimates (ten times?), partly blamed on there being far
fewer launches than was assumed when the estimates were made.

Here's an interesting graph of plan vs. actual budget:
 
http://www.abo.fi/~mlindroo/SpaceLVs/Slides/sld030.htm

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