Re: OT: Dogbert's New Ruling Class Newsletter, April, 2005
- From: "Kryten" <kryten_droid_obfusticator@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:12:27 GMT
"Scott Stephens" <scottxs@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Here, I'm thinking more of the DNRC newsletter. And he has written a book
> too. Containing some nihilist, atheist and socialist themes.
It is a humorous book.
Not to be taken seriously.
It does seem that a lot of conflict is based on religions, and you'd hope
that a decent god would show up in person and say "here I am, now stop
fighting, you stupid bastards".
In practice the universe behaves exactly as if there were no gods at all.
So I'm an atheist, and have no religious reason to bully anyone at all.
> In Dark Star, it is humanity that is the nihilistic militant race trying
> to sterilize alien worlds before the evolve to a point where they can
> sterilize the Earth.
No it isn't.
It's just a small movie exploring how humans react in sci-fi situation.
In this case, a very boring job with only a few other people for company.
Unsurprisingly they are incredibly bored, bicker, and go slowly nuts.
The equipment malfunctions, they have to persuade a sentient bomb not to go
off by philosophical arguments.
You're the one extrapolating your depressingly miserable view of the
humanity onto the entire race.
> Very little of what I rant about is original. I deliberately try hard to
> not quote my favourite patriots, philosophers and artists.
Maybe you should spend less time filling your head with their rantings and
try exploring comedy.
It's a concept you seem unable to grasp, but bear in mind that it isn't
meant to provoke deep thought on politics or philosophy. Just laughs.
> Adams is an artist expressing his experience. What I am observing is his
> experience is rooted in cultural sickness and stupidity, which I find too
> tragic and pathetic to enjoy.
Strange. Well adjusted humans just see a cartoon ridiculing stupidity.
> Now that is a truly rational argument; a depraved cartoon
> ridicules a book considered by many (forgive my resort to authority and
> social-proof) as being one of the most influential and profound of the
> century, so it must be true.
No, merely that the book is so well known as over serious and fawned over by
self-styled deep thinking poseurs that even cartoons can ridicule it and the
viewers know the book.
Influential is not necessarily good either.
Nietzsche certainly influenced the Nazis: they loved the message "God is
Dead, the world is full of suffering which toughens you up", which they
interpreted as "Man is supreme, it is our right to try to dominate the
world".
They also blamed all their own misfortunes on other people: commies,
socialists, intellectuals, Jews, Blacks, homosexuals, trade unionists,
gypsies, foreigners, anyone who didn't agree with their self-centred views.
They just couldn't see that everybody hated them for the first world war and
4 years of carnage on an industrial scale. So they did it again!
We can see your hate list has got the same beginnings...
We remember Germany eagerly re-arming itself because it felt emasculated
after the treaty of Versailles. We wouldn't be surprised to find you are one
of the survivalist crowd, stockpiling arms in preparation against all the
people you blame for everything.
> That is the typical scoffer mentality Scott Adams and South Park use to
> influence public opinion. Not only them, Bill Maher, Whoopy Goldberg,
> George Carlin, Al Franken, et. All scoffers that promote communist
> bull*** by ridicule rather than rational argument.
They are _comedians_.
They are being _funny_, in order to be laughed at.
You note the audiences laugh.
Has anyone ever been to a comedy gig and seen the audience rubbing their
goatees and saying "wow, comrades, they're right on with their political and
philosophical arguments, we must go out and turn ourselves into the Soviet
Republic of America!".
Has anyone ever seen a communist politician at a rally where the crowds are
laughing "Oh Stalin, you really crack us up with your witty observations of
those crazy capitalists! Just thinking of them in their huge classic 1950s
cars, and barbeques on the beach, I laughed for the four hours I was queuing
for a cabbage!".
>> Really dude, you need to lighten up.
>
> I need to learn how to derisively insult and ridicule mockers and
> scoffers, rather than wasting logic and rational argument on them.
You just seem to be so terribly unhappy with the world for some reason.
Maybe you were bullied as a kid.
Depression is like a dark cold prison.
We'd like to point out the world isn't so bad in the eyes of normal people.
We'd like to try nudging you to a door for you to turn the key.
But if you prefer to stay in there, scowling out and hurling abuse at people
who mean nothing more than to share a laugh, that is your own fault.
.
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