Re: PROBLEM! misc.busines...
- From: Guy Macon <_see.web.page_@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:57:18 +0000
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>Yes indeed there is. Crossposting to a moderated newsgroup exposes not
>only the replies (for those who don't carefully check the newsgroups
>line) but even the ORIGINAL post to the whims of the moderator. As a
>result, for example, it may never reach any of the unmoderated
>newsgroups.
>
>Totally unacceptable, IMHO.
If that's totally unacceptable to you, feel free to avoid posting or
crossposting to moderated newsgroups.
I don't know if you noticed, but the first time someone from sci.
electronics.design made a polite request that I not allow crossposts
there, I stopped approving any crossposts to sci.electronics.design.
I did this not because I had to or because anyone made a good argument,
but simply because it seemed like the polite thing to do. It would
be nice if I got an occasional scrap of politeness thrown back to me,
but that's the decision of whoever is doing the posting to make.
While on the subject of being polite, shall we discuss whether
crossposting your off-topic opinions about moderation policies to
comp.arch.embedded and sci.electronics.design is the polite thing
to do?
Your argument contains a fatal flaw. It assumes that, just because
some posters are foolish enough to use a newsreader that posts to
whatever newsgroups the post they reply to was posted to *and* are
foolish enough to let the decision the newsreader made stand without
reviewing it, they should be allowed to dictate where other posters
can and cannot post just to shield them from the consequences of
their foolish behavior.
This is Usenet. You don't get to tell me what to do, and I don't
get to tell you what to do. You are 100% responsible for anything
you post - headers and body. You can choose to quote from someone
else's post and you can choose to post to where someone else posted,
but the choice is yours and so is the responsibility.
As for your "for those who don't carefully check" concept, this was
decided a long time ago in another context. There was a proposal
floated that all moderated newsgroups have the word "moderated" in
the newsgroup name, much like the way binary newsgroups are labeled.
The argument was that those who don't carefully check might end up
posting and having their posts not approved or posted with an
added moderator's comment on the bottom. The consensus among news
administrators was that it is the poster's responsibility to pay
attention, and that it is not Usenet's responsibility to shield him
from the consequences of not paying attention. This basic concept
was built into the fabric of Usenet when it was decided that any
poster can set followups - another situation where those who don't
carefully check might be surprised at the results they get.
"This is not a list. This is not a board. This is not
some web page forum with rules and moderators. This is
USENET. The wild west of online communication. Where
trolls and flames roam rampant. Where you keep your
asbestos underpants handy if you lack wit (or have an
ego that greatly exceeds your actual abilities).
If you don't like it, feel free to run back to the
comfortable safety of moderated web forums and mailing
lists where everyone lives in enforced peace and harmony
in the land of Nod."
-Cichlidiot
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