Re: PROBLEM! misc.busines...

On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:57:18 +0000, Guy Macon
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>Spehro Pefhany wrote:
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>>Yes indeed there is. Crossposting to a moderated newsgroup exposes not
>>only the replies (for those who don't carefully check the newsgroups
>>line) but even the ORIGINAL post to the whims of the moderator. As a
>>result, for example, it may never reach any of the unmoderated
>>newsgroups.
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>>Totally unacceptable, IMHO.
>
>If that's totally unacceptable to you, feel free to avoid posting or
>crossposting to moderated newsgroups.
>
>I don't know if you noticed, but the first time someone from sci.
>electronics.design made a polite request that I not allow crossposts
>there, I stopped approving any crossposts to sci.electronics.design.
>I did this not because I had to or because anyone made a good argument,
>but simply because it seemed like the polite thing to do. It would
>be nice if I got an occasional scrap of politeness thrown back to me,
>but that's the decision of whoever is doing the posting to make.
>While on the subject of being polite, shall we discuss whether
>crossposting your off-topic opinions about moderation policies to
>comp.arch.embedded and sci.electronics.design is the polite thing
>to do?
>
>Your argument contains a fatal flaw. It assumes that, just because
>some posters are foolish enough to use a newsreader that posts to
>whatever newsgroups the post they reply to was posted to *and* are
>foolish enough to let the decision the newsreader made stand without
>reviewing it, they should be allowed to dictate where other posters
>can and cannot post just to shield them from the consequences of
>their foolish behavior.
>
>This is Usenet. You don't get to tell me what to do, and I don't
>get to tell you what to do. You are 100% responsible for anything
>you post - headers and body. You can choose to quote from someone
>else's post and you can choose to post to where someone else posted,
>but the choice is yours and so is the responsibility.
>
>As for your "for those who don't carefully check" concept, this was
>decided a long time ago in another context. There was a proposal
>floated that all moderated newsgroups have the word "moderated" in
>the newsgroup name, much like the way binary newsgroups are labeled.
>The argument was that those who don't carefully check might end up
>posting and having their posts not approved or posted with an
>added moderator's comment on the bottom. The consensus among news
>administrators was that it is the poster's responsibility to pay
>attention, and that it is not Usenet's responsibility to shield him
>from the consequences of not paying attention. This basic concept
>was built into the fabric of Usenet when it was decided that any
>poster can set followups - another situation where those who don't
>carefully check might be surprised at the results they get.
>
> "This is not a list. This is not a board. This is not
> some web page forum with rules and moderators. This is
> USENET. The wild west of online communication. Where
> trolls and flames roam rampant. Where you keep your
> asbestos underpants handy if you lack wit (or have an
> ego that greatly exceeds your actual abilities).
> If you don't like it, feel free to run back to the
> comfortable safety of moderated web forums and mailing
> lists where everyone lives in enforced peace and harmony
> in the land of Nod."
> -Cichlidiot


Damn, what a tedious windbag.

John

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