Re: OT: followup on New Orleans - disgraceful



John Larkin wrote: 
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:56:13 +0100, Pooh Bear
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


A poster to the previous thread I started posted the following link.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2005/08/31/disaster_preparation/

Includes...

" A year ago the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers proposed to study how New
Orleans could be protected from a catastrophic hurricane, but the Bush
administration ordered that the research not be undertaken. "

your comments are welcome


Graham




1. A study, started last year, wouldn't have made any difference. And
the locals could have funded their own damned study, 50 years ago.

2. NOLA has been pumping out water, and lowering itself, for over 100
years. During that time, sea level hasn't dropped any. This had to
happen.

3. Lots of administrations, from Teddy Roosevelt on, could have gotten
concerned and done something about it. None did.

4. The effects of an "optimum" hurricane on New Orleans have been
predicted for decades, with most estimates of lose-the-city
probability running around 1% per year. Some scenarios were much
worse.

5. The Big Easy isn't noted for administrative competance, or worrying
about the future, or doing much of anything well except maybe cooking.
That's one reason why I left.

John


Maybe- but it is clear from your reasoning that you come from the same stock, dumb as hell. The New Orleans disaster points up , once again, the ignorance, disorganization, and single-minded special interests within modern day "leadership." The city had no jurisdiction over the levees so that a local study would have been pointless. A coordinated study involving the state, city, NOAA, FEMA, and the Army Corps of engineers would have made more sense. Clearly a multi-phase, realistic plan, initially focused on damage control, and ultimately evolving into outright physical rehabilitation of the levee system would have been the most obvious outcome, with the engineering and weather data justifying the creation of various emergency response policies, plans, and funds. It is obvious that there was absolutely nothing in place at the state or municipal level but a bunch of clueless blowhards standing in front of a TV camera and telling people they should leave- even after the fact it took the idiots several days to realize the magnitude of the human disaster they had on their hands. The whole incident stinks of blatant stupidity from square one: packing people into the superdome with no forethought of logistics support under extreme circumstances of accessibility, absolutely no support planned for emergency health care or re-supply, absolutely no thought of civil disobedience, looting, and lawlessness, absolutely no idea of the potential for major disease outbreak what with 1000's bodies, feces, and who knows what mixed in with the flood waters, and absolutely not a grain of an idea of the magnitude of material for basic life support material such as food and water. It appears that the hurricane itself was just the start of things, the total failure of leadership, the idiots who have control of the resources, is ongoing. All of these catastrophic consequences are well-known and easily bounded. For example, there are many scientific NIH funded social studies that tell us with absolute certainty that the majority of black people will not believe a damned thing the government or any authority figure tells them- duhhhhh- that means we have a quantifiable estimate of the number of people who will refuse an evacuation order- duhhh- last minute evacuation orders will not work for them- and many of them had no where to go and no means to get there- duhhh- what does an evacuation order accomplish- duhhhh. This list could go on for another 10 pages- it's a waste of time talking with morons like you, you're an idiot.

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