Re: Bush is either a liar, or an idiot, or both.

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:50:44 +0100, Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:

> keith wrote:
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>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:58:46 +0100, Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
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>>>Fred Bloggs wrote:
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>>>>Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
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>>>>>Fred Bloggs wrote:
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>>>>>>Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
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>>>>>>>Fred Bloggs wrote:
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>>>>>>>>And then the stranded population in New Orleans was just a very
>>>>>>>>small fraction of the total stranded all throughout the Gulf Coast.
>>>>>>>>The military was ordered to mobilize a relief effort for the whole
>>>>>>>>region- and this means ships and heavy air transport- and this is
>>>>>>>>exactly what they are doing. They are not going to drop everything
>>>>>>>>and possibly abandon the other people just to make a publicity coup
>>>>>>>>for the group in New Orleans. And on top of that, New Orleans had
>>>>>>>>security and control problems which required additional planning
>>>>>>>>and deployment- makes their situation worse because it's going to
>>>>>>>>take longer.
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>>>>>>>Crap.
>>>>>>>Tens of thousands of people crowded into a small space without food,
>>>>>>>water or law should have been THE priority. It was certainly easy
>>>>>>>enough from a logistical POV.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It is not easy logistically because water is not easy to transport-
>>>>>>and all the local water was salt water, de-salination may not be part
>>>>>>of the Army inventory of field water supply installations and they
>>>>>>don't have all that many anyway. There comes a time when people need
>>>>>>to start to taking of themselves or at least mitigate their
>>>>>>suffering- this did not occur in New Orleans. You just let the
>>>>>>planners who have intimate knowledge of their capability and best
>>>>>>situational awareness run this show- and don't worry about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, supplying law and order plus basic medical supplies for the most
>>>>>needy would have been *easy*. 500 troops airlifted into the stadium
>>>>>would have done it with no problem whatsoever.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There *were* Louisiana National Guard at the stadium from the beginning,
>>>>they were controlling the original occupancy. You mean they left during
>>>>the storm?
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>>>>
>>>>>BTW, how have the people from the stadium been evacuated given that
>>>>>the water has not subsided?
>>>>>
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>>>>Apparently they are just a short walk through knee-deep water to a major
>>>>roadway that is intact.
>>>
>>>Pity that the US military didn't think of walking.
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>> The US military doesn't have the authority to intervene in domestic
>> affairs. That authority can only come from Congress, which is not in
>> session.
>
> Oh.. the holidays.
> And I thought there wasn't a good excuse...

The "excuse" is that it is *illegal* for the US military to operate
against US citizens on US soil, without the explicit authority from
Congress. ...or Janet Reno.

--
Keith

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