Re: Bush is either a liar, or an idiot, or both.

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:45:05 +0100, Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:

> keith wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:50:44 +0100, Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
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>>>keith wrote:
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>>>>On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:58:46 +0100, Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
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>>>>>Fred Bloggs wrote:
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>>>>>>Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
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>>>>>>>Fred Bloggs wrote:
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>>>>>>>>Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>Fred Bloggs wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>And then the stranded population in New Orleans was just a very
>>>>>>>>>>small fraction of the total stranded all throughout the Gulf Coast.
>>>>>>>>>>The military was ordered to mobilize a relief effort for the whole
>>>>>>>>>>region- and this means ships and heavy air transport- and this is
>>>>>>>>>>exactly what they are doing. They are not going to drop everything
>>>>>>>>>>and possibly abandon the other people just to make a publicity coup
>>>>>>>>>>for the group in New Orleans. And on top of that, New Orleans had
>>>>>>>>>>security and control problems which required additional planning
>>>>>>>>>>and deployment- makes their situation worse because it's going to
>>>>>>>>>>take longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>Crap.
>>>>>>>>>Tens of thousands of people crowded into a small space without food,
>>>>>>>>>water or law should have been THE priority. It was certainly easy
>>>>>>>>>enough from a logistical POV.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It is not easy logistically because water is not easy to transport-
>>>>>>>>and all the local water was salt water, de-salination may not be part
>>>>>>>>of the Army inventory of field water supply installations and they
>>>>>>>>don't have all that many anyway. There comes a time when people need
>>>>>>>>to start to taking of themselves or at least mitigate their
>>>>>>>>suffering- this did not occur in New Orleans. You just let the
>>>>>>>>planners who have intimate knowledge of their capability and best
>>>>>>>>situational awareness run this show- and don't worry about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, supplying law and order plus basic medical supplies for the most
>>>>>>>needy would have been *easy*. 500 troops airlifted into the stadium
>>>>>>>would have done it with no problem whatsoever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There *were* Louisiana National Guard at the stadium from the beginning,
>>>>>>they were controlling the original occupancy. You mean they left during
>>>>>>the storm?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW, how have the people from the stadium been evacuated given that
>>>>>>>the water has not subsided?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Apparently they are just a short walk through knee-deep water to a major
>>>>>>roadway that is intact.
>>>>>
>>>>>Pity that the US military didn't think of walking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The US military doesn't have the authority to intervene in domestic
>>>>affairs. That authority can only come from Congress, which is not in
>>>>session.
>>>
>>>Oh.. the holidays.
>>>And I thought there wasn't a good excuse...
>>
>>
>> The "excuse" is that it is *illegal* for the US military to operate
>> against US citizens on US soil, without the explicit authority from
>> Congress. ...or Janet Reno.
>
> So a soldier handing out a food pack is an act of treason.
> Got it.

Whatever. It *IS* illegal. Euro-losers will never understand those who
cherish freedom, so why waste breath/ink/bits.

--
Keith
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