Re: Gee, I never needed one!
- From: artie <artie.m@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:29:38 -0700
Dave, dave, dave...
Such a closed-minded post! Where is your sense of exploration, your
open mind, your open pocketbook?
There are people out there who *need* these products! They *need* to
be sure that the electrons flowing into their sound systems are pure
and free of pollution. Those kids down the street playing that excuse
for "music?" Without adequate filtering, how can you be sure that *rap*
stuff isn't getting into *your* equipment, hmmm?
So of course you *need* the $400 mains cable (even though your house
was probably wired with #14, or #12 if you're lucky), and a $1500
state-of-someone's-(f)art filter/regulator. Can I sell you a nice
*Tice* *Clock* to go with that?
Never, never, underestimate the sales potential of the simple phrase,
"Did you hear that?"
....A few years ago at CES Las Vegas I was sitting around with some
friends and we were talking about the "high end" wire biz. We started
brainstorming about doing some hoax products, and sketched out some
stuff. We thought we had some pretty good stuff going.
The next day we see a guy selling adapters to let you use standard
extension cords (3-wire 120 volt extension cords) with your XLR
system... The possibilities of that are, well, fascinating.
And we saw some wire vendors that convinced us that no matter how much
tequila and oil of snake we could put into our schemes, we were pikers.
These clowns had us out-weirded by a good 40dB. I have no idea why
anyone would want or need a monocrystalline silver mains cable, but
they were taking orders for the things...
Made an offhand reference to another guy that if he wanted extreme
connectors and cables, he could use one-inch Andrew Heliax
(www.andrew.com) for speaker cable -- hey, it will handle any power
level you want, and the response is flat from DC to at least a GHz, so
it should handle the Stones' latest, right? The cable is big and bulky,
as are the connectors, and you need special tools to (properly) fit the
connectors, and of course the cable needs to be cut to length. Big,
ugly, got to be custom fit, expensive -- sounds like a winner! The guy
scribbles furiously, shakes my hand, and hurries off in glee -- I think
I've given him a license to print money.
And of course there's the guy down the hall extolling the sonic virtues
of capacitors rolled on the thighs of virgins, but that's a tale for
another day...
Namaste-
artie
In article <8cb2f.33518$K91.29930@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Dave M.
<gadget007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> As many of us know in the electrical/electronics world, all home
> electronics equipment has a form of filtering associated with the a.c.
> line and/or the filtered d.c. down the path. Series noise filtering can
> be a line transformer as you would find on better equipment or an rc
> network as found on direct line connected equipment.
>
> I see these "line conditioners" in the stereo/tv stores selling for as
> much as $500.00 to $1500.00. These units clean-up noise as well as
> stabilize the 120 volt line voltage.
>
> As I have come to understand, the need for these units is grossly
> exaggerated by salesmen to unsuspecting customers, as the line noise
> levels are already reduced to acceptable levels in the tvs/stereos in
> general. Also, dc voltages are regulated and actively filtered, further
> negating the need for " ac voltage regulation and noise filtering benefits
> of these conditioners. But the point is, it's probably not necessary at
> least for the low/mid end equipment they buy and is a disproportionately
> high investment.
.
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