Re: Something we can all agree on

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:58:50 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:23:10 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
>>On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:35:59 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:46:02 -0800, "Richard Henry" <rphenry@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:50:40 -0800, "Richard Henry" <rphenry@xxxxxxxx>
>>
>>>>W apparently decided he doesn't need them. Or his handlers told him he
>>>>doesn't need them.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't, and there's a couple thousand years of legal precedence that
>>>>> says it's not.
>>>>
[back to John Larkin - I don't know who snipped the previous attribution]
>>>>A couple thousand years of wiretapping?
>>>>
>>> A couple of thousand years of recognizing that a small crime is no
>>> crime if it prevents a much bigger one.
>>>
>>That's an awfully slippery razor blade to find oneself sliding down.
>>
> There is, as George Will points out, not a slippery slope, but rather a
> continuously shifting equilibrium between civil liberties and public
> safety. The more we are seriously threatened, the more we must intrude
> on things like "privacy." He points out that when threats decline, the
> boundary has always shifted back.
>
> What's wrong with that? Too reasonable to justify shrieking?
>

OK, you asked, so watch out! ;-)

Did anybody see George W. Bush's speech on TV Sunday night? (12/18)
The guy's clearly paranoid. He sees a terrorist behind every tree the
same way Joe McCarthy saw a communist there.

Commiting "a little crime" in the name of "preventing" a "bigger crime"
is a very insidious way of weaseling your way out of responsibility for
your own crime.

There is never any justifiable excuse for violating the Constitution of
the United States. Period.

Anyone who does so is guilty of high treason, and needs to be hanged or
shot, after a fair trial, of course. ;-) <ooh - a Thompsonesque smiley!>

It's pretty much that simple. Does the Constitution say, "The president
is allowed to spy on US citizens without bothering to get a warrant"?

No?

Then he's not only a dangerous fool and neocon sympathizer, but he's
a traitor, and it is our duty as citizens to see to it that he is
brought to justice.

Thanks,
Rich


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