Re: Favorite electronics movies

Jim Yanik wrote:
>
> "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> news:43D6863B.DF2394CA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>
> > Mac wrote:
> >>
> > [snip]
> >
> >> Well, the CIA and especially the FBI have a pretty bad track record for
> >> respecting the limits in the constitution.
> >>
> >> But it is my opinion that the people in the NSA understand the
> >> constitution. You can bet that president Bush's illegal order to
> >> monitor US persons without FISA or other court approval was leaked by
> >> someone in the NSA who was disgusted and appalled.
> >
> > Maybe. Or perhaps it was noticed by someone in the telecom industry.
> > After all, wiretaps are no longer conducted with alligator clips in a
> > phone closet anymore. RF interception doesn't work well for fiber optic
> > systems either. The NSA needs a hook into the telecom's switching
> > equipment. That leaves behind lots of evidence in log files, network
> > traffic reports, etc.
> >
> >> As far as I can see, without a bona-fide declaration of war from the
> >> congress, precious little slack should be accorded to the president on
> >> matters of the constitution and limits to executive power.
> >
> > The courts have ruled that a state of war isn't justification for
> > violating provisions of the constitution or the law. And, we're not even
> > officially at war right now.
> >
>
> Do you think that FISA overrides the Constitution? I don't.
> Clinton didn't,either.
>
> http://nationalreview.com/mccarthy/mccarthy200601240827.asp
> I'd say this guy's qualifications indicate he knows what he's talking
> about.
>
> And we ARE "officially at war" right now.

Please cite the specific declaration of war.

> (how DOES one declare war against a non-nation/state or multinational
> terror group? Congress authorizes use of military force.)
> (military force being an "act of war".)

In both Afghanistan and Iraq, we are (supposedly) acting under the
authority of the UN Security Council.

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