Re: 2005 was the hottest year on record

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 14:29:53 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 12:55:40 -0800, Bob Monsen <rcsurname@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 08:02:28 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:18:19 -0800, Bob Monsen <rcsurname@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

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There is a lot here. Lets go through it point by point.

What is your estimation of the emotional IQ of the Republicans who 'went
to the defense' of Terry Shiavo?

Why bother with the "emotional" adjective?

Frist isn't stupid. He is a surgeon, and should have known better. He let
his fear of the religious right and Tom DeLay override his real
intelligence. He is also creep.

I'm a Republican because we aren't afraid to fight wars, and they
don't
take my money.


They don't take YOUR money, because you are 'their base'. Unfortunately,
you miss the important point that in taking money from the poor,

Please elaborate. Last time I looked there was all kinds of reverse
taxation for the poor. They get paid to level UP their income.


Sure, they live in luxury, working two jobs, living with 4 kids in a one
bedroom apartment.

they
destabilize the situation. Also, by not taking money from you, they
ensure that your kids and grandkids will be paying for their profligate
spending, as will mine. They are like college kids with their first
credit card; they use it to get what they want, without a thought to the
later cost. College kids use it to have fun. Republicans use it to buy
and consolidate power (just like the Democrats did when they were in
office).

Personally I'm for free choice, life, death, assisted suicide and
abortion.


Good for you. You are a minority in your own party.

I don't really think so. The religious right are just noisy. Similar
to the FACT that most Catholics practice birth control.


Nonsense. The religious right got Bush elected, and he knows it. When
Alito and the gang votes to overturn Roe v Wade, you aren't going to be
happy, are you?


But don't take my hard-earned money to give to ne'er-do-wells.


Your money that you earn sitting in front of a computer all day?

Jealous? I have a VERY marketable skill.


Lucky you. I am a bit jealous. I wish I had your electronics skills, or at
least your client list...!

What
about those ne'er do wells that work two jobs, probably cleaning your
house for you?

I pay my housekeeper $90 for 3 people for 2 hours. I wouldn't call that
cheap.


The service keeps $45, your 3 people get $7.50/hr each. They probably have
2 gigs a day...

What about the ne'er do wells that work in the grocery stores,

Where in hell are you. Grocery store clerks here are union... last I
heard, about $30-35/hour.


Sheesh. Wake up. Here in California, the grocery clerks haven't gotten an
'effective' raise since Reagan was in the white house (my wife used
to work as a clerk). Their benefits have been cut, and grocery stores now
employ part-time workers to keep hours down, so they won't have to pay
benefits. They are making nowhere near $30/hr.

deliver your packages,

UPS/FedEx delivery people are underpaid?

clean up after you when you are in the hospital, or trim your trees?

Nurses make big bucks and are in short supply/high demand around here.


The nurses don't do the *** work.

Tree trimmers. My yard guy averages $150 bucks from me. The heavy tree
stuff, semi-annual, runs $290 for a couple hours work with fancy power
equipment.


Nice. That guy hires a crew of illegals and watches them climb the trees.
He pays them day wages.

The ones that flip your burgers?

Failure to pay attention in school has its just reward. (Watch for a
post to A.B.S.E later today :-)


Congrats to your granddaughter. Sadly, some people don't have the
equipment she has. Should they be living in hovels, as virtual slaves?

Why should
they, who frankly work far harder than you do,

Do they? I work 6-7 days a week, typically 11 hours.


In your chair. Doing something you love. Taking long, frequent breaks to
play with your grandkids, or enjoy Rush Limbaugh... ;) I know the routine,
I worked from home for years before I retired.

have a far worse life
than you?

Do they? I think you're a socialist from Canada ;-)


No, they voted the socialists out of canada. The canadian conservatives
are in power, I think... they are going to regret that choice, I bet.


How about the ethical IQ of the
Republicans who took money from that sleezebag Abramoff and his
friends, and proceeded to let them write legislation and add clauses
into random bills that would benefit their clients at our expense?

ALL politicians are crooks. Democrats included. They took money from
Abramoff or from Abramoff go betweens (aka indian tribes), yet deny
deny deny.


No, they didn't.

Of course they did. Even Reid did, by his own admission and scurrying
to give it to charity ;-)


The whole K-street thing was designed to give money to Republicans. That
is what the scandal is about. Control. Wake up.

Democrats take money from corporations as well. Nobody can not do this,
and get elected. However, they don't often let the lobbyists write the
bills for them.


How about Air America funded by moneys stolen from the Boys and Girls
Club of NY?


Sure, I believe that... NOT.

You, my friend are ignorant. It's a fact.


Well, that is clearly true. I missed "Rush's" show yesterday. I'm gonna
lose my 'dittohead' status if that continues...


How about
the interpersonal IQ of the fools who got us into Iraq based on the
self-serving lies of that sleazy Ahmed Chalabi?

I don't think that's how we got there.


Then you are wrong too. Ahmed Chalabi convinced Wolfowitz and the idiots
at "Project for a New American Century". that

1) Saddam was building WMD
2) That we would be greeted with open arms by the Iraqis. 3) That he
could control the Shiites.

That is why we are there: the dimwits thought it would be a cake walk,
and that we could intimidate Iran by kicking Saddam's *** when they
couldn't do it. Didn't work out that way, eh?

Certainly we thought it would be a cake walk. But I'll lay money bets
we ultimately find the stuff in Syria.


You mean after we invade? If there was an ongoing WMD program, we'd have
proof by now. Face the facts: your boy was conned by a very clever guy,
and we are all paying for it.



Now, these guys aren't raving lunatics, like the guys who put up that
silly site above. However, the raving lunatics aren't running the
country. Sadly, republicans with low emotional, ethical, and
interpersonal IQs seem to be...

You'd rather that Democrats "with low emotional, ethical, and
interpersonal IQs" were ?:-)


Frankly, I can't see the democrats falling into the traps I mentioned. I
see them being pork-loving skimmers. I don't see them writing additions
to bills at the 11th hour, or getting scammed by Chalabi, or trying to
diagnose Terri Shiavo over the phone. They have their problems, of
course. Put bluntly, they were in power too long, got soft and used to
the free pork lunches. Newt and his evil minions ate their lunch, and
they still haven't recovered.


And GOD DAMN IT, why the HELL can't they at least act competently with
regards to protecting our troops from IEDs? They seem to talk about
supporting the troops at every chance they get. Why do soldiers need
to buy their OWN BODY ARMOR?

I think that's been shown to be a leftist exaggeration.

Shown by whom? Why do you continue to listen to Rush Limbaugh? Don't you
know any better? That guy is LYING to you...

How many times now have I stated, I DON'T WATCH OR LISTEN TO LIMPBALLS.


Just 'yanking your chain'... ;P



Though I can remember having to send a side-arm to an uncle serving in
Korea.

Why the HELL can't they at least get a few stinking details right
while they loot the treasury,

How are they doing that?

By cutting taxes during a (useless, mismanaged, wrongheaded, stupid
blunder of a) war. By letting their buddies at Martin Marietta or
Lockheed or Boeing write the defense appropriations bills. By pissing
off one of the world's major sources of oil so their friends who own oil
wells can sell the oil for more money. By running up the deficit to
record levels, while not collecting corporate taxes, or auditing the
rich (the poor get audited far more often on a *per capita* basis!)

There are certainly MORE of them ;-)

By writing legislation
into the budget to relax environmental restrictions, which forms yet
another kind of 'deficit', which we can't even guess the cost of.

Cite. You're blathering.


I did.



listen to our
phone calls,

What? YOUR representative is ignoring you?

pack the courts,

What a pile of BS. I may be wrong, but I believe that Clinton
appointed more judges than "W" has.

More Rush Limbaugh. You really need to get a few other news sources.
Bush has appointed over 200 judges who have been confirmed by the
senate.

Uh? Leftist weenies can't count? I just found a list of _373_
CONFIRMED Clinton appointees and _1_ appointed out-of-session.

This
is a larger 'per term' average than clinton, his poppy, or reagan. Also,
the appointees are generally much farther out of touch with mainstream
interests that was true of any of his predecessors. Even so, the senate
blocked over 60 of clinton's appointments. This compares to the 26 of
Bush's appointments who have been blocked by the senate. So, the whole
'democrats trying to stonewall appointments' thing is nonsense. They
only objected to the real kooks.


and destroy all environmental law for their lobbyist friends?

Which law would that be?


EPA rolling back emission standards for coal-burning power plants. The
'Clear Skies' initiative pegs CO2 emissions to to the growth of the
national economy, thus allowing far more emissions than prior law. The
administration lowered standards for arsenic in water, the controls of
toxic chemicals, and has opened up fragile wetlands to development. It
has redirected 'superfund' funds, and decreased corporate responsibility
for environmental disasters they cause, thus allowing them to pollute at
the public's expense.

The EPA has manhandled the results of long term environmental studies,
changing the results to suit their corporate client's whims.

EPA officials routinely hack the law in favor of corporations, and then
magically get jobs with those corporations weeks after these laws take
effect. (Google for John Pemberton). A timber lobbyist runs the Forest
Service. A Mining company lobbyist is deputy secretary of the interior.
EPA officials brazenly take dictation from the major polluters and then
cash in as high paid consultants.

They don't even try to hide this anymore. I guess they figure all the
news is about Iraq, and they can do what they please domestically.

We should round up leftists weenies and tar 'n' feather 'em. They get
to be soooo tiresome... believing their own blather :-(

...Jim Thompson

"You WEENIES are tiresome (particularly when you are right)"

You have cotton in your ears, and are humming the national anthem. It
isn't your party anymore. You are just too shocked by it to believe the
horrible things they are up to. Again, WAKE UP!

--
Regards,
Bob Monsen

"But when on shore, & wandering in the sublime forests, surrounded by
views more gorgeous than even Claude ever imagined, I enjoy a delight
which none but those who have experienced it can understand - If it is
to be done, it must be by studying Humboldt"
-- Charles Darwin
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