Re: What the hell ever happened to Iraq and Afghanistan?



Frank Bemelman wrote:
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Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> schreef in bericht
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Wake up to what? Bending to threats from fanatics? WWII should have
taught you Europeans how much that buys you. And you people are
betraying your ancestors who fought hard and long to keep these people


Why not go back to Adam and Eve. That old WWII argument has worn out.
The credits for that belong to your ancestors, not to the politicians
and decision makers of today. The world has changed since WWII, so
please, at least wake up to that simple fact.

Yes it has, but in ways that make things much more lethal. There is
nothing new under the sun,, the same hate filled mentality exists today
and the past does hold valuable lessons that are more applicable than

ever.

More lethal, you can say that again. The folks in Iraq know all about
it now. The valuable lessons learned in the past tend to get ignored,
even our short-term memory seems pretty crappy. Re-election of GWB was
an excellent example of that. In the old days you could use the excuse
of not being informed, but today we have plenty of information,
unfortunately it doesn't seem to improve our decisions.


I would hardly call *anything* the Bush administration does a "decision." The American people think it's cool to be dumb, ignorant, and impulsive, and they are now paying the price because this grossly mismanaged war is draining government resources which could be spent on far more constructive projects. They're too stupid to realize that the so-called 9/11 attack should never have happened but for gross incompetence and negligence of all the US government agencies responsible for preventing it- the whole thing should have been just another failed terrorist fantasy. And they don't seem to be fazed by the complete failure of the new Homeland Security Department to do much better, this coming from their own Inspector General and numerous expert insiders. Also the idiots are completely unperturbed by all the rock-solid evidence proving there was no justification for the invasion of Iraq in the first place, the whole thing was a trumped up fraud and abuse of authority. And how did the Russians obtain the complete and detailed US plans for the ground invasion of Iraq? Is it that our government and military is infested with traitors at the highest level? Why hasn't that news turned into a national scandal? Another disturbing development arising from the war in Iraq is the accelerated development of autonomous, armed, predator drone technology with the capability for 100% surveillance in time and space. Are these damned fool Americans so damned dumb they don't realize this is going to be turned on them someday? America's problems run much deeper than having GWB in the White House, GWB is only a symptom and not a cause. The US government requires a revision of its architecture. The knuckle dragging inbreds don't understand that, but it was the intent of the original authors that Constitutional Conventions be held every 25-50 years, and the purpose of those conventions would be to revise the Constitution in adaptation of lessons learned and new developments. This is way the hell long overdue- and the damned hoi poloi need to be kept the hell out of it.


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Relevant Pages

  • The Associated Press Interviews U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad
    ... Could you talk about your reflections on the new government and where we're going from here, in Iraq? ... I think this government of National Unity has two positive features that makes it a very important step. ... Second is that the Sunni Arabs that did not participate in the transition period in the elections that produced the government led by Prime Minister Jaafari. ... I think that with the participation of the Sunni Arabs and all communities now in the political process, I believe that the situation will improve in Iraq, but it will not improve in the security domain immediately. ...
    (soc.retirement)
  • Iraq Constitution
    ... Subject: Iraq Constitution ... into power that are connected with them in Iran that you want to go to War ... that each Religious Group and each individual, Government or General Public ...
    (alt.politics.bush)
  • Wash Post/Woodward: CIA Said Instability Seemed Irreversible
    ... Early on the morning of Nov. 13, 2006, members of the bipartisan Iraq ... Study Group gathered around a dark wooden conference table in the ... "The government is unable to govern," Hayden concluded. ... by the Iraqi government. ...
    (alt.politics.bush)
  • Re: 1:240 (approx) scale figures, accessories, etc?
    ... The difference in Iraq and Afganistan is that very few innocents were ... two countries that had nothing to do with that terrorist attack! ... Afganistan - The mobster like Tahliban government was in bed with Osama and ... Assumming each murder was committed by a different person, ...
    (rec.models.railroad)
  • Juan Cole on Kurds, Iraq & Bushs "Pre-emptive" Doctrine
    ... attack they said that the local government always used to excuse its ... The Reagan and then Bush senior administrations allied with Saddam ... Iraqi unity and independence. ... than Saddam in Iraq if things go on as they have been. ...
    (soc.culture.iraq)