Re: Home made solar cells - is this real?

Carl Smith wrote:
In article <4at6snFu4h7pU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, don@xxxxxxxxxx says...

And with individuals who refuse to accept that there is a fundamental thermodynamic reason involving exergy why electrolysis for bulk hydrogen energy flat out ain't gonna happen.


This reminds me of another message board I read. (Yes, message board, one of those vile web based things, not a Usenet group.) Someone was saying that they had a design to run a car on water. What they thought they were going to do was use a battery to do electrolysis of water to H and O2, and then burn that in the engine. Oh, and I guess they planned on recharging the battery with an alternator on the engine.

Now that message board isn't populated with engineers, so I have to give them a bit of slack.

I tried explaining six ways from Sunday why this wouldn't work. I said it would take more battery power to make the H and O2 than the energy you'd get back by burning it in the engine, so you'd be better off just running an electric motor from the battery. I said that you couldn't make an electrolysis system that could produce the hydrogen fast enough to run the engine continuously and still have it fit in the car. They just didn't understand and/or believe me.

Finally I came up with something they could understand.

When you burn hydrogen, what do you get? Water. And you get the same amount of water that you started with before you broke it into H and O2. So your exhaust is the same fuel, and same amount, that you started with. So you have a system where you can stick your exhaust pipe in the gas tank and never run out of fuel. I think they finally got it that the energy isn't coming from that fuel. :)


The ongoing persistence of the Meyer Ludicrosity continues to amaze me.

Website after website, and at least one Canadian company taken out by the equivalent of their SEC.

Detailed analysis at http://www.tinaja.com/glib/muse153.pdf

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