Re: RoHS AKA Woah, Hoss!

In article <7v6682lb2panh99chi391vetfa2esijtdo@xxxxxxx>,
jjlarkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 16:28:25 GMT, mzenier@xxxxxxxxxx (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

In article <44813C8E.F5D03703@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Mark Zenier wrote:
...
I guess two words aren't enough.

There's nowhere near enough political pull from landfill operators and
the landfills' neighbors worried about local water quality to cause
this lead free "movement". (And after a landfill is full, and the money
quits coming in, it's just its neighbors...).

The push to de-lead the world comes from the large industrial combines
that build garbage incinerators and the companies that want to generate
electrical power using a "free" fuel source. This is not a Green thing,
it's Wall Street at its worst. Some organizations see a niche in the
economy for financing, building, and operating garbage powered electrical
generators, but there are a couple of barriers. Like the pollution laws.
And public opposition.

These outfits have a lot of money to lobby governments to change
things around to where the money can start coming in. And, as I've
read and observed, they want to get the waste down to the point where
the pollution generated is "acceptable".

You're suggesting they want to incinerate discarded electronics too ?

Yea, the stuff they can't get out by presorting. (Or in the US, where
they don't believe in presorting because it "costs too much", ie. impacts
profits).


We live in the US and have three wheeled trash containers:

Black: garbage, mostly incinerated; no toxics

Blue: recyclables

Green: yard waste, food, anything compostable

I take ours to the "transfer station". Thay charge for household
refuse ($2.75/30 gal.) and constructions materials ($6/30 gal.)
cost but recycles are free, which includes glass, plastic,
textiles, and metal, with the exception of stuff that contains
refrigerant.

They are picked up every Tuesday morning. The blue bin gets mixed
paper, metal, and plastic, and they are machine+hand separated by the
trash company for recycling.

I could have puck up service, but it's just as easy for me to take
it to the "dump" and cheaper.

Additionally, we can make two calls a year for free pickup of big
stuff, furniture and general junk, and have lots of places we can take
electronics, paint, used motor oil, batteries, and toxics.

Same here. ...all free.

There's a 5-cent deposit on soda cans and bottles, and most
neighborhoods have someone who comes by early in the morning and digs
those out of the recycling bin before it's collected. Ours is a nice
old Chinese lady. If there was a similar but larger deposit on
electronics, we wouldn't need ROHS, or at least the lead-free part.

We give what little we have anymore to the scouts, whichever
variety is raising money. There's always talk about raising it to
$.10, but there's little point. There's very little laying around
in the road, for long.

--
Keith
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