Re: help newbe with 8051 uC

mc wrote:
If using a "DOS" window (you really mean a command prompt - just because Microsoft doesn't know what it's called, is no excuse for others getting it wrong)

Actually, Microsoft isn't confused. Windows 2000 and up have both a DOS prompt and a Windows command prompt, and although the command languages are similar, the two are entirely distinct things. To see a DOS prompt (rarely seen), choose Run... and type "command.com". To see a Windows command prompt, either choose it from your menu or go to Run... and type "cmd.exe".


Yes, most windows forks these days refers to it as a "command prompt". But for a long time, Microsoft did their best to confuse the issue - including combinations (on NT 4.0, IIRC) as calling it a "command prompt" while using an icon for MS-DOS. Basically, they wanted people who needed to use old DOS programs to be able to find a command shell, while hoping that everyone else would use point-and-drool windows for everything. The irony, of course, is that the windows shell has been steadily improving as Microsoft realises that it is a vital tool for power users. Perhaps by Vista, it will have evolved into a shell as powerful as unix shells were 20 years ago.

My main point, however, was that an embedded developer should not be scared of using a command prompt and running programs like "make" or creating small batch files or shell scripts. You quickly find it is a very fast and flexible way of using the computer.

is a problem for you, then you are not going to get far in this field - compilers are by nature command line tools, and IDEs that put a pretty face on top will only get you so far. It's like refusing to learn to understand assembly while still wanting to write good code for a small micro - it can't be done.


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