Re: Can we fire a magnetic pulse at a fighter ?





Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:31:29 GMT) it happened Dan Bloomquist
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Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 21 Aug 2006 03:09:10 GMT) it happened Dan Bloomquist
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http://www.circuitcellar.com/msp430/1st.htm

Rats. I clicked through to see your camera and it crashed netscape. I lost some stuff I was writing here.


Must be some other reason, old link with java perhaps....
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/pic/camc_pic/index.html
is clean basic html, nothing active, the camera page is php.
I see you use MS windows.... oh well.
I run Linux Firefox now, but the site was Ok with netscape too.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20060110
Debian/1.5.dfsg-4 Firefox/1.5
uname -a
Linux grml 2.6.17.9 #1 PREEMPT Sat Aug 19 20:13:24 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
Just showing of:-) installed new kernel yesterday.
Linux is free and comes in many flavors:
big
www.opensuse.org
small
www.grml.org

Hi Jan,
I have Linux in the lab. This is my day job:

http://reserveanalyst.com/

So, yea, I have to run MS on this machine.

Anyway, when I saw the above, I thought of this:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/m982-155.htm

'Sensitive to GPS jamming....', OK, nice, but we see again and again
that low tech guerilla tactics sometimes are more effective.
Good surface to air missiles, dispersed under civilian population.
anti tank... I dunno, I would _not_ put too much faith in high tech.
Maybe US will one day go 100% high-tech, rely on GPS and sat communications
100%, enemy shoots down or takes control of some mil satellites,
and US has lost a war?

Jamming is one thing but it is rather unlikely that someone will take the GPS system down. At that, the Excalibur is still a round, just an expensive one if you send it off dumb.

A missile to bring down a sat is not _that_ a big deal, especially if
the sat is transmitting towards the battle field, just head for the
transmitter.

A space missile is travailing very fast. Course corrections toward a small satellite is no small feat for a kinetic hit. I haven't looked at the numbers. Maybe if you spread a sheet of fragments out before arrival, hard to say without some research.

Yea, I want to use the msp430 for heating control. Most of the money goes into military it seems. Every publication now asks me if I do military electronics now.

I have no experience with that chip, any micro should do for heating
control, even did it with a 8052.

BTW, how do you like the PIC Development system? I have tools for the hc11, but it is old and the msp430 looks so easy. (Easy is part of their promo). I figured I couldn't go too wrong with the $20 starter kit.

Well, I have MP lab, and I never use it.
I use Linux and picasm.... I never use a debugger, I wrote loads of software,
even a complete OS, a multitasking OS too, no debugger, only an oscilloscope
:-) to see if what I wrote worked.
Same for asm, C, etc.

I am spoiled. I can't imagine working without a debugger anymore. I do have a logic analyzer, but about worthless when you can't get to the data and address busses.

noppp_lx as programmer..... just added code for the other PICs I use.
There is also gpasm gputils, several other pic open source packages for Linux.
MP lab is big, I think I borrowed some headers from it......
No GUI for me, just an xterm or 9..

Software is rather deterministic, if you keep some simple rules and know
how the hardware works, no need for debugger..... You can see what you did
wrong.
But how many people these days can write 100 lines of ASM that work first
time?

Non ?

Hell MP lab and some other soft allows you to simulate your code....
How tyring.... Only a few instructions for a PIC, just get some basic
function working, make some asm libs for yourself..... and you are good to go.
I never simulate anything in PIC, just write the code, use a pin as test out,
get the subroutines or whatever working, connect it all together that is it.
Faster cheaper better.

I know many people do thing differently, for those:
<insert flames here>

FLAMES!!!!!!!! :)

<end flames>

I don't want to make a career of developing a micro controller, it is just part of a bigger project.

I can only recommend the PICs, specially as Microchip has one for about
every application you can think of.
If you run out of speed use an FPGA.

Speed will never be an issue for this one. I just want simplicity for delivery. I figure if I order the msp430 easy it will be an hour and I'll know where I stand.

But if anyone has suggestions, I'd appreciate the feedback.

(Took the crossposting off)


Best, Dan.

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