Re: Copper theft

On 21 Sep 2006 03:52:57 -0700, bill.sloman@xxxxxxxx wrote:


John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:12:53 +0200, martin griffith
<mart_in_medina@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 21:35:21 GMT, in sci.electronics.design "Michael
A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

martin griffith wrote:

At least the Yanks originally left/escaped europe to set up their own
immaculate system of government.


Thank God they made the effort, too.

True. But it does seem that the US system has passed it "sell by date"
with its terminally damaged consitution and maybe the EU can learn
from the failure of the USsystem ( unlikely)...

<sigh, bury head in bucket of sand>



But the USA is doing fine. Europe and Japan are facing economic and
demographic time bombs.

The European and Japanese populations are stable and would start
shrinking in a few years, if it were for the contributions of the
immigrants, whi still breed as if their secuirty in old age was
dependent on their kids rathr than the national social secuirty system.

There is virtually no immigration into Japan.


The U.S. hasn't hit the demographic watershed yet - perhaps because the
social security system isn't too impressive - and its population is
still ballooning, which is a demographic time bomb.

SS works fine. I could retire in a few years at about $2800 a month,
and my wife could follow a few years later at about the same rate.
Medical care would be dirt cheap. We'd be just as comfortable as we
are now, only bored. The US-born population has a brats-per-woman rate
of about 1.8, and the population is growing mainly through
immigration. No time bomb there. A rate of 1.2 is a much more severe
slope to ride down.


And the U.S. uses twice as much oil per head as the Europeans, which is
an economic time bomb.

Try taking your head out of the sand - we've all got quite a few
problems coming up, and God's only country probably isn't going to be
able to sit them out.

I think the US will do fine, as it is, and has been, pretty resilient
in adapting to circumstances. Europe will certainly survive as europe,
but I think the stresses will be a bit worse, due to the severe drop
in native birth rates and an unfamiliarty with massive immigration,
which is going to happen.

California has no racial majority, and a third of its residents were
born outside the USA, and it works great; we're all Americans here.

John


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