Re: PID question



hondgm@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
hondgm@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
...Here's a drawing of how I understand it:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=image&file=Drawing1.jpg

I wasn't sure about where the feedback goes. One problem, if the
feedback path is correct as I have it, is that my current range is
0-2500 and the current range is 0-4000. Maybe it just has to be scaled.
The block you call Voltage setpoint would be one DAC output.

The block you call Current setpoint would be the second DAC
output.

The PID current control drives the pass element that
actually controls load current.

The measure of load current is the feedback to the PIC
current controller.

The measure of voltage across the load is the feedback to
the PID voltage controller.

Does that make more sense?

Well, not really. I was going to have only one DAC that provides the
ref voltage for the regulator, then use that, along with the current
sense value, to limit current. Remember the PID is being done in a
micro, and the only analog I/O is one DAC out and one A/D measuring
load current.


I lost some of those details.

So the DAC provides the analog signal representing the output of low selector, (the setpoint for the analog PID current controller), and the ADC provides the load voltage measurement into the software PID voltage controller.
You will still need an analog current measurement to provide feedback for the analog PID current controller.

The only question left in my mind is whether or not the micro has the bandwidth to perform the PID voltage controller and low selector with adequate response.
.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: PID question
    ... I wasn't sure about where the feedback goes. ... The PID current control drives the pass element that actually controls load current. ... The measure of voltage across the load is the feedback to the PID voltage controller. ...
    (sci.electronics.design)
  • Re: Hybrid Circuit
    ... Feedback is not sensitivity to load. ... Stones don't have "internal feedback", ... I pass a current through a resistor and it develops a voltage which counters the ...
    (rec.audio.tubes)
  • Re: Motion Controllers
    ... analog feedback need to be subtracted, with PID applied to the error signal and an output of either a PWM or analog drive to an amplifier. ... Because the command and feedback are both velocities, the ability to monitor a position signal for limiting the drive would be nice but probably not necessary. ... What is the analog set point signals form and function. ... I'm thinking I also lack some terminology as well -- would the thingie that implements the PID loop and possibly an amplifier be called a "motion controller" or a "servo"? ...
    (sci.engr.control)
  • Re: NFB101 part 3
    ... feedback for the purpose of valve amp design without using ... with unbypassed cathode resistor, ... impedance of such an anode follower is increased due to the ... load and is ...
    (rec.audio.tubes)
  • Re: NFB101 part 3
    ... RDH4 does not agree with what you are saying. ... cathode resistor provides current-derived feedback if ... the load. ... When asked why I used a series resistor on the 'PC ...
    (rec.audio.tubes)