Re: OT? : Netherlands to switch 100% to VOIP before 2010
- From: Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:57:56 GMT
On a sunny day (Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:25:17 -0700) it happened Jim Thompson
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:06:19 +0000, Gibbo <gibbo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
We (The Netherlands, or Dutch ahum) just made the switch to digital TV
a few month ago, the analog transmissions were switched of completely.
I bought a settop box....
Few weeks ago I came across one of those small news bulletins on a _German_
site (www.heise.de) that the Dutch KPN decided to kill the old phone system
and switch to VOIP 100% before 2010.
So more sales, and millions of phones and phone related appliances need replacing...
Now 2010 is only _3_ years away....
And indeed on their site KPN is now selling 'slim bellen', or in English
'smart dialling", and you can ONLY keep the old analog line if you have special
requirements, like alarm systems (they are probably still a bit scared of claims).
OK, I moved to VOIP years ago, but not via their service, but I use their copper
lines.
Now as some other poster was asking about answering machines etc.. I case we
want to play, then we will have to design stuff with a small TCP/IP stack, and
ethernet interface...DSL modem perhaps, if there is not one.
Now again today I see Germany will do the same thing (no date known), with the help
of IBM.
I am all for it, but then send the 100 million or so analog phones to the third world? ;-)
I would like to hear opinions and solutions....
I think in the view of all this, and TV over internet etc, better have the PC
on 24/7, we need low power computers (or more nuculear* power plants).
In the old days the telco was more strict on design acceptance then the army.
What happened to '48 V DC must be there, so the phones will work in a case
where power fails?'
etc...
*Ape spelling.
Checked by spelsjeker
Odd. In the UK telephones have to be able to dial emergency services
(999 here though I understand 112 works also) during a power cut. How
can that happen with VOIP?
As an aside, mobile (cell) phones here will still dial 999 with no SIM
card in them and give the emergency answering services the location of
the phone. As I found out when I gave an old phone to my 7 year old
daughter to play with.
100% VOIP sounds like an urban legend to me.
mm, US was a bit later with digital sat TV too :-)
Your sure can't beat POTS for reliability.
Not sure, most of the telco's networks is already digital.
What Tom Jimpson stated here, sounds a bit like when I listened to that mp3
of an old analog recording, and thought: 'mmm analog sounded indeed better'.
Oops, had to correct myself.
My oldest son has Vonage VOIP and it sounds like crap.
Yea, I have an other one to normal phones.
And I have Skype too for PC2PC.
UK will have to follow, although it is no longer part of theEU I think....
All EU countrioes no exchange finger prints and DNA, xept UK of course.
Blair probably afraid he will get arrested.
LOL
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