Re: TI-Burr-Brown parts shartage?

On Apr 6, 7:11 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote:
On Apr 5, 11:58 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:23:52 -0700, John Larkin

<jjlar...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 4 Apr 2007 16:03:24 -0700, bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote:

On Apr 4, 8:15 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-
Site.com> wrote:

[snip]

Eeyore and Slowman have no clue. Our private charities are far more
efficient that ANY government entity.

I wonder how Jim measures the efficiency of a private charity? Or for
that matter how he defines it?

Benefit/cost ratio.

Which would only work if you could value benefits and costs in the
same units - presumably dollars. The effectiveness of a charity
depends not only on the quantity of goods they transfer to the
recipients, but also on the timing of the transfers, and the
proportion of the appropriate recipients that they reach. Since the
costs and benefits can't be expressed in the same units, you can only
talk about effectiveness, not efficiency.

That's exactly where charity excels. They see a need very quickly and
react pretty much immediately.

In the immediate community. They tend to do worse when the need is on
the wrong side of tracks.

And the point I was making was that you can't describe this in terms
of efficiency, but only in terms of effectiveness, which is much
harder to quantify.

I could give you tons of examples from
here but that could be considered boasting. And on some occasions I
couldn't because it breaks confidentiality.

And examples don't tell us anything about the people who needed help,
but didn't get it becasue nobody knew that they neede help ....

My favorite charity...

http://www.firstfoodbank.org/

Of course, if the U.S. had a social security system,

It is truly amazing to me how the most vociferous of the critics of
the US are the MOST IGNORANT!

I'm not a vociferous critic of the U.S. - which Jim would understand
if he wasn't such an ill-educated redneck - and his opinions on other
people's ignorance are totally vitiated by his own.

What cage do you live in, Slowman?

The one defined by world outside the cage in which Jim is confined by
his ignorance and prejudice. Jim is a citizen of a gated community in
Phoenix, Arizona - I'm a citizen of the world.

We certainly DO have a social security system. I, myself, receive
Social Security Benefits of $3000/month AFTER deductions for extra
insurance plans I subscribe to. I also get a pension from GenRad. I
also earn income from consulting ;-)

Not so much a social security system as pension scheme set up by the
rich to look after the rich. In civilised countries, social security
schemes are safety nets for everybody.

such a charity
would have a lot less to do."Seniors on fixed incomes and families
living below poverty levels are struggling to put food on their tables
12 months a year."

People in the poverty industry like to say stuff like that.

Are they lying?

If they talk about countries like the US, possibly. Here, you can easily
go to a food closet. Typically run by county organizations and churches.
There you can usually get more food than you can possibly consume. How
do I know? Our church runs one. Much of that comes from members of the
congregation who have large orchards. Then we have the "senior gleaners"
who pick fruit at other properties that would otherwise go to waste
because the owners aren't interested in it. Let me tell you, that is top
notch gourmet stuff. The supermarkets can't even touch that level of
quality.

Which makes it seasonal - and you aren't talking about a balanced
diet. Historically, getting through the winter was the difficult bit.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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