Re: A lousy page produced with M$-ware (was: It's not that bad)

JeffM wrote:
Anthony Fremont wrote:
What is blinking?

Anthony Fremont wrote:
I installed FireFox and I now see it, that does suck.

Like a 9 year old produced it.

Yes it looks bad with the blinky text, but in all fairness, the author
didn't make it look that way on purpose. Once you get past that, the
content is good. In fact, it is very good. I'd hate to see it disappear
because I like his collection of circuitry. I intend to pilfer from it.
;-)

JeffM wrote:
1) Stop using Microsoft Word to write HTML pages
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://ourmicro.com/

The OP seems to have used FrontPage (not Word) to create it.

*BY* M$ Word or *FOR* M$ Word--it's all the same:
Bloated, non-compliant code.
BEFORE putting up a page on the Web,
make the effort to assure that it is standards-compliant:
http://validator.w3.org/
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/

Translation: Here is some freely available software that might assist you
in improving your site's compliance.

It's not like it's personally his fault
that M$ can't generate proper HTML.

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
Don't overlook the possibility (however remote it might seem)
that it might be an intentional thing on the part of M$

Yup. KNOW YOUR VENDOR:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:rtpxpIDMOvoJ:www.gigalogos.com/know_4.php+extending.those.standards.with.proprietary.capabilities+using.those.differences+zzz+convicted+monopolistic-*-*+Microsoft.strategy+qq+codes.of.conduct+to.disadvantage.its.competitors+embrace.extend.and.extinguish&strip=1
One assumes that the OP wasn't forced at gunpoint to use those tools.
Better tools are READILY available for FREE.

If YOU use NON-standards-compliant tools, it is YOUR responsibility
to convert the crap it produces into compliant code.
Don't waste MY bandwidth
downloading unnecessary junk that M$ embeddeds (read: ADDS)
to make their pseudo-HTML **M$ Word-compatible**.
STRIP IT OUT **BEFORE** UPLOADING IT .
(Another link from my 1st post.):
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:tLfBViaXeIQJ:tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/Overview.html+*-*-*-*-*-Word'97-*-*-*+free+*-*-*-*-fix-*-mistakes-automatically+bulks.out.HTML.*+*-hard-to-read-*+fix-*-*-*-*-*-problems+*.*.sloppy.editing+things-*-you-need-to-work-on+can-*-perform-wonders+HTML-*-from-Microsoft-Word-*&strip=1

Translation: Please try to use standards compliant software because some
companys attempt to redefine standards which results in pages that some
browsers have trouble viewing.

My personal comentary: Blah blah blah, do you have a site helping newbies
out with electronics, or maybe HTML? If you made half the effort to explain
this in a non-combative way to the author as you did you humiliate him, we
all might feel better about it. I hope you don't spend allot of time
writing diatribes to every site that crams a bunch of unnecessary junk in
the HTML they send you, or you'll be a very busy individual. ;-)


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