Re: 232 Americans are murdered using guns for every Briton

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:04:55 +0100, Eeyore
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bill.sloman@xxxxxxxx wrote:

Joerg wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
US gun homicide rate 2004 - 11,624
http://www.ichv.org/Statistics.htm

UK gun homicide rate 2006 - 50
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

These are the most recent figures available.

11,624 / 50 = 232.5

In the UK the chance of being murdered by gun is **less than one in a million**
in any year.

Guess they are now using other "tools". Here is a dose of reality for you:

http://www.garymauser.net/09172006-Globecolumn.htm

Quote: "Both the United Kingdom and Australia brought in stringent
firearms laws following garish media coverage of shootings in the 1990s.

But despite the effort, police statistics show that the U.K. is enduring
a serious crime wave. In contrast to the U.S., where the homicide rate
has been falling for more 20 years, the homicide rate in the U.K. has
been growing."

And how long before the rising homicide rate in the UK approaches the
falling homicde rate in the U.S.? When I last looked, the US homicide
rate was four times the UK rate.

You're only out by an of magnitude or two !

The US gun homicide rate is **34** TIMES the UK rate.

Graham

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/2656875.stm

"You are now six times more likely to be mugged in London than New
York. Why? Because as common law appreciated, not only does an armed
individual have the ability to protect himself or herself but
criminals are less likely to attack them. They help keep the peace. A
study found American burglars fear armed home-owners more than the
police. As a result burglaries are much rarer and only 13% occur when
people are at home, in contrast to 53% in England."

and

"But despite, or because, of this, violent crime in America has been
plummeting for 10 consecutive years, even as British violence has been
rising. By 1995 English rates of violent crime were already far higher
than America's for every major violent crime except murder and rape."

"You are now six times more likely to be mugged in London than New
York."

"In 1981 the American [murder] rate was 8.7 times the English rate, in
1995 it was 5.7 times the English rate, and by last year it was 3.5
times. With American rates described as "in startling free-fall" and
British rates as of October 2002 the highest for 100 years the two are
on a path to converge."


3.5 times is a tad different from 232:1


John




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