Re: A Way to Use Bare Wire on a Toroid

On Thu, 03 May 2007 04:52:14 GMT, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2007 16:55:55 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:

D from BC wrote:

On Wed, 02 May 2007 07:14:23 GMT, Robert Baer

Martin Riddle wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

On Tue, 01 May 2007 18:46:07 GMT, D from BC <myrealaddress@xxxxxxxxx>

I got a chuckle when I saw this..

Wire guides on a toroid..
Patent 4975672
http://www.google.com/patents?id=hIcoAAAAEBAJ&dq=4975672
D from BC

OMG, NASA wastes our tax dollars again. This is *radically* stupid.

McLynm or whatever is the author of a few books on magnetics. Sort of
cookbookish.

1) You are a little late to be harping; the date of the patent is 1990.
2) *NOTHING* in the claims states bare wire; in fact it eXplicity (ie:
X-rated) states *Litz* wire.
3) Learn how to read.

I didn't the read patent. :)



Why did the dyslexic cross the road?

A: Side to other the to get.


Patents often have that pseudo english patentese that I don't like
reading.
What?? No claim of using bare wire in the patent???. :)
I just looked at the diagram and used my imagination...
The wire guide really looks useful to keep windings from shorting out
with bare wire..
Litz wire makes sense for HF use.
D from BC

Yea; the guide idea *seems* good, but the expense of making guide
grooves methinks exceeds the expense of putting insulation (eg: enamel
or polyurethane) on wire.


In the abstract, it mentions "shrink tubing" at least twice:
"... Prior to winding, the wire may be placed within shrink tubing. The
shrink tubing is then wound about the alignment disc and core and then
heat-shrunk to positively retain the wire in the uniform position on the
toroidal core."

Albeit, it does say, "_may_ be placed..." (emphasis mine)

Cheers!
Rich

That wording makes no sense.
Shrink tubing around wire adds insulation; OK so far.
"Wrap the tubing around..." is obviously the same as wrapping the
wire around - since the wire is inside the tubing...
Now the corker of non-sequiter: "heat-shrink to positively retain..."
would only result in squeezing the wire.
El stupidio.

I was taught all these written english rules and then I see'm all
broken in patents.
Often I'm analyzing the fkn language more than I'm analyzing the fkn
invention.
It seems like in patent writing it's important to nail down the claim
even at the expense of easy comprehension.
I think patents are only meant to be read by lawyers to fuss over
details.

It reminds me of the description for the turboencabulator..

"
Work has been proceeding in order to bring perfection to the crudely
conceived idea of a machine that would not only supply inverse
reactive current for use in unilateral phase detractors, but would
also be capable of automatically synchronizing cardinal grammeters.
Such a machine is the 'Turbo-Encabulator'. "The original machine had a
base-plate of prefabulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable
logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings were
in a direct line with the pentametric fan. ... The main winding was of
the normal lotus-o-delta type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots
in the stator, every seventh conductor being connected by a
nonreversible trem'e pipe to the differential girdlespring on the 'up'
end of the grammeters. "Forty-one manestically spaced grouting brushes
were arranged to feed into the rotor slipstream a mixture of high
S-value phenylhydrobenzamine and 5% reminative tetryliodohexamine.
Both of these liquids have specific pericosities given by P =
2.5C.n^6-7 where n is the diathetical evolute of retrograde
temperature phase disposition and C is Cholmondeley's annular grillage
coefficient. Initially, n was measured with the aid of a metapolar
refractive pilfrometer . . . but up to the present date nothing has
been found to equal the transcendental hopper dadoscope. ...
"Undoubtedly, the turbo-encabulator has now reached a very high level
of technical development. It has been successfully used for operating
nofer trunnions. In addition, whenever a barescent skor motion is
required, it may be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocating
dingle arm to reduce sinusoidal depleneration."

*clipped from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboencabulator

Before my time...
D from BC
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