Re: Semi-OT: How to throttle a AMD Turion?

krw wrote:

In article <XZl1i.7805$2v1.7753@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...

krw wrote:


In article <L241i.1377$mR2.667@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...


krw wrote:



In article <5fG0i.8186$rO7.6406@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...


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I believe the market is there. If people only would know what's possible. But most younger folks don't because they grew up around energy guzzling laptops.


People want power on their desktop too (Windoze kinda demands it). There is a reason the "desktop replacement" laptops are selling big.


That could have been one difference. He used Windows, 3.1 or whatever. I used DOS-Word and DOS-OrCad.


I don't think M$ is too interested in selling Win3 anymore. ;-)



Keep an eye open at the usual places/groups and if something cheap shows up
that seems worth the risk jump on it. Gear like that used to last longer as
well. For a couple of different reasons.


Yes, as long as you can manage to emulate a legacy port connection to get at the data when back in the office.


Emulate a legacy port on an old system? I missed that one.


I meant on the laptop or PC back in the office. It needs to be able to talk to whatever text writer you use on the road. Many "modern" laptops only come with USB and the emulation of what they call legacy ports may or may not work. For uC programmers it usually doesn't work :-(


I just misunderstood which system the legacy port was on, incorrectly.

Not too useful of you're on the road, but my ThinkPad docking station has legacy printer and serial ports (as well as 5 USB 2.0 ports). I couldn't get the PS/2 port to talk to a "Model-M", so had to spring for a USB "Model-M" and KVM.


If it contains a properly engineered RS232 port you should be fine and able to communicate with most legacy devices.


It? The ThinkPad, Dock, or PS/2 port? Not sure where you're going here.


Anything that allows a legacy RS232 port to connect. A dock station is great but it does cost extra.


However, docking stations for most laptops are expensive and thus often not there. For many they don't exist.


They don't exist for cheap laptops, no. They do for decent ones though (anything I'd consider "business worthy"). Mine was about a quarter the price of the laptop. I have a ton of cables plugged in (4xUSB, LCD, printer, 2xaudio, LAN) and wouldn't have enjoyed enjoy unplugging everything every time I took it downstairs. If you don't want to spring for a dock many also have port replicators that have legacy ports. I used those in the lab so I could more easily work there.


Well, I never pay more than $1500 for a laptop. They get banged up too much, could be stolen, plus they wear out fast. My last one was a real deal, under $1000, ruggedized (metal) enclosure and best of all it came with an RS232 port that the sales brochure had mentioned nothing about.


The ThinkPad I just bought my wife uses the same dock so it makes it easier to be her sysadmin. ;-) If she wants to use the larger monitor she can use it too. Hers has a 15.6" display so she's usually happy to sit in front of the TV with it.


That's a big no-no in our house. Except when I am waiting for Gerber check plots at night but then it sits in a corner as an "email chime".


I've got a ruggedized mil-type laptop for the road and AFAIK even that doesn't have an available docking station. But it does contain RS232 because they figured people who buy this kind of computer will surely need it ;-)


What model?


Twinhead Durabook D14RA. Bought it before Vista hit, on purpose ;-)

That's the one with the AMD Turion and the loud fan (the only downside I could find so far). I still don't get it why a processor must idle at hundreds of MHz when typing an email. I mean, my car engine can do it. Runs 6000rpm max but idles at 600rpm. And my old Compaq laptop could also do it.


IR would be a really nice, reliable and low cost method but for whatever reason it fizzled in the marketplace.


IR is a security hole waiting to happen. A couple of years ago I was in a meeting when I say a bubble pop up saying that there was another IR laptop near. Turns out my boss was sitting next to me. Our laptops had IR transceivers on opposite sides so I was connecting on a peer network with his system.


Doesn't have to be. When at home nobody listens in or you'd see them. Plus you can hold the satellite gear close up.


I've never found a legitimate use for IR. Bluetooth, halfa use. WiFi is great.


Well, IR is dirt cheap. You can do it through one lone uC port pin. WiFi just doesn't exist in most legacy gear. Even modern stuff doesn't use it. I bought a wireless mouse and instead of going through the WiFi link it needs it's own USB pod. A bit disappointing.

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