Re: M$ Vista

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:21:54 -0700, Spurious Response
<SpuriousResponse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:09:54 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 7/31/07 7:53 PM, in article 8ctva3h6sh15iaanmmjpqoghovjg0enmg5@xxxxxxx,
"Spurious Response" <SpuriousResponse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:04:35 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:56:26 -0700, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

******* copy ******
From: mcoffey <mcoffey3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: undisclosed-recipients@null, null@null
Subject: If you buy a new computer, expect significant
reliability issues for the next few years.
Date: Jul 27, 2007 1:33 PM

Hi everyone, I'm copying several people on this message.
When buying a new computer, you will be forced to the new unstable
version of Windows, Vista and additionally you will likely buy a lead
free computer the could also have reliability issues.

So, it's a double whammy, both hardware and software reliability could
be significantly worse.

Below is the story of a technical person who tested Vista for 30 days in
April 2007.
This person gave Vista a fair shot, installing a new copy and using it
for 30 days as his work computer.
He tested two different computers that run XP and Linux reliably.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMxOCw1LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

To summarize:
"In summary, for a generally clean Windows installation, there were a
profane amount of quirks and instabilities that caused us to lose data
on more than one occasion."

"Stability:
I'm just going to cut to the chase: On both Pugetina and Whakataruna,
the computer would suddenly, and without warning, reboot. This was not
to say that the computer crashed with something like a blue screen of
death (BSOD) - the computer went into shutdown mode without being
prompted or giving me a chance to save the data that I was working on.
As a result, I lost some of my work.

That is essentially the definition of unstable, and as this was tested
on two separate machines with the same result, I'm fairly sure that it's
not my hardware (which works perfectly in Windows XP and Linux, by the way).

Every so often, inexplicably, processor utilization will ramp up to
100%...with no applications open. I had to reboot to restore the system
back to a true idle state. "

"Throughout the 30 days, different third-party applications would often
not install, install but crash with errors at startup, crash when using
a specific feature, or simply crash randomly. I had one or more of these
issues with the following applications: Gaim, Avi2Dvd, Second Life,
Darwinia, Quake 4, Prey, and others."

"Backwards compatibility is very poor, and it's a crapshoot whether the
third-party utility you rely on will work. "

From the above, a fresh install of Vista performs worse than a badly
infected version of XP

Remember, this is a "clean and fresh install".
Vista will only get worse as it's attacked by viruses and faulty programs.

In short, Vista could be becoming stable in 2 to 3 years time.
Your choice will be to buy a Vista machine (Microsoft is forbidding
machines to be shipped with XP)

Dell and HP will sell you PCs with XP installed. I suppose lots of
other people will, too. I bought a bunch of HP "server" boxes with no
OS, and bought a bunch of oem XPs on the web, and we use that combo.


It will also cost you an additional $200 for XP Home, plus the cost of
installation.


OEM XPs are around $90.



You guys really are complete pussies. That is aside from how retarded
your position is.

Seriously, Spurious, can you think of ONE person on this board who trusts
you to be truthful? Give it up.


Are you claiming that I have not run Vista Ultimate for the past year,
and have had zero problems with it?

You're an idiot if so.

The dumb*** that claims to have lost data is an even bigger idiot.

He is a fucking joke, in fact.

Windows Vista Ultimate.

Microsoft Office Professional 2007.

Microsoft Flight Simulator Deluxe Edition

All other app, including old legacy DOS apps... All run perfectly.

If all this is is that some of you dopes are destined to have
problematic lives with your electronics... so be it.

In fact... I hope that IS what is going on, because that makes the
entire thing much much funnier!

All my *** works...


All your *** falls apart...

I live in joy...

You dopes live, pissing and moaning at every turn.

Flawless hilarity!

Bwuahahahahahahahah!



Read the list:

http://redmondmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=8894

I think "improves the performance" means "crashes a little less" in
English.

Vista probably won't be stable until SP2, and will probably always be
a Microsoft DRM control-freak CPU hog.

John

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