Re: M$ Vista

Spurious Response SpuriousResponse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx posted to
sci.electronics.design:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:09:54 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On 7/31/07 7:53 PM, in article
8ctva3h6sh15iaanmmjpqoghovjg0enmg5@xxxxxxx, "Spurious Response"
<SpuriousResponse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:04:35 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:56:26 -0700, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

******* copy ******
From: mcoffey <mcoffey3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: undisclosed-recipients@null, null@null
Subject: If you buy a new computer, expect significant
reliability issues for the next few years.
Date: Jul 27, 2007 1:33 PM

Hi everyone, I'm copying several people on this message.
When buying a new computer, you will be forced to the new
unstable version of Windows, Vista and additionally you will
likely buy a lead free computer the could also have
reliability issues.

So, it's a double whammy, both hardware and software
reliability could be significantly worse.

Below is the story of a technical person who tested Vista for
30 days in April 2007.
This person gave Vista a fair shot, installing a new copy and
using it for 30 days as his work computer.
He tested two different computers that run XP and Linux
reliably.


http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMxOCw1LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

To summarize:
"In summary, for a generally clean Windows installation, there
were a profane amount of quirks and instabilities that caused
us to lose data on more than one occasion."

"Stability:
I'm just going to cut to the chase: On both Pugetina and
Whakataruna, the computer would suddenly, and without warning,
reboot. This was not to say that the computer crashed with
something like a blue screen of death (BSOD) - the computer
went into shutdown mode without being prompted or giving me a
chance to save the data that I was working on. As a result, I
lost some of my work.

That is essentially the definition of unstable, and as this
was tested on two separate machines with the same result, I'm
fairly sure that it's not my hardware (which works perfectly
in Windows XP and Linux, by the way).

Every so often, inexplicably, processor utilization will ramp
up to 100%...with no applications open. I had to reboot to
restore the system back to a true idle state. "

"Throughout the 30 days, different third-party applications
would often not install, install but crash with errors at
startup, crash when using a specific feature, or simply crash
randomly. I had one or more of these issues with the following
applications: Gaim, Avi2Dvd, Second Life, Darwinia, Quake 4,
Prey, and others."

"Backwards compatibility is very poor, and it's a crapshoot
whether the third-party utility you rely on will work. "

From the above, a fresh install of Vista performs worse than
a badly
infected version of XP

Remember, this is a "clean and fresh install".
Vista will only get worse as it's attacked by viruses and
faulty programs.

In short, Vista could be becoming stable in 2 to 3 years time.
Your choice will be to buy a Vista machine (Microsoft is
forbidding machines to be shipped with XP)

Dell and HP will sell you PCs with XP installed. I suppose lots
of other people will, too. I bought a bunch of HP "server"
boxes with no OS, and bought a bunch of oem XPs on the web, and
we use that combo.


It will also cost you an additional $200 for XP Home, plus the
cost of installation.


OEM XPs are around $90.



You guys really are complete pussies. That is aside from how
retarded your position is.

Seriously, Spurious, can you think of ONE person on this board who
trusts
you to be truthful? Give it up.


Are you claiming that I have not run Vista Ultimate for the past
year,
and have had zero problems with it?

You're an idiot if so.

The dumb*** that claims to have lost data is an even bigger
idiot.

He is a fucking joke, in fact.

Windows Vista Ultimate.

Microsoft Office Professional 2007.

Microsoft Flight Simulator Deluxe Edition

All other app, including old legacy DOS apps... All run
perfectly.

If all this is is that some of you dopes are destined to have
problematic lives with your electronics... so be it.

In fact... I hope that IS what is going on, because that makes
the
entire thing much much funnier!

All my *** works...


All your *** falls apart...

I live in joy...

You dopes live, pissing and moaning at every turn.

Flawless hilarity!

Bwuahahahahahahahah!

Aside from obviously lying to yourself as well in your posts how
about you read the following
NG "microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup" for a few
thousand posts for a reality check. It is open to all and is root
hosted at "news.microsoft.com". All the MVPs there would no doubt
acclaim your participation.
I will be awaiting your contributations.
.