Re: OT: is the AGW bubble about to burst?

In article <pan.2007.08.14.23.05.57.459658@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Rich Grise wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:13:12 +0000, Don Klipstein wrote:
In article <pan.2007.08.13.21.58.46.288333@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Richard The
Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:27:11 -0700, bill.sloman wrote:

More gas-efficient cars would be a start, more wind energy - Denmark
already gets 20% 0f its electric power from windmills - and there a
several schemes for getting rid of CO2, by burying it in disused oil
fields or deep ocean trench, or letting it react with finely divided
olivine (which is widely available).

How about letting the Rain Forests inhale it and turn it into habitat?

This requires rainforests gaining biomass. However, as I heard it,
human activity has been decreasing rainforest biomass, especially in
tropical rainforests.

One thing I think we need is more conversion of atmospheric CO2 to
biomass, and to not limit such an effort to rainforests. (Of course, we
need to work on reduction of human activity types in the opposite
direction).
I suspect that tree farms to make building materials would
remove CO2 from the atmosphere. I would do at least some of this
separately from efforts to restore tropical rainforests, since one
characteristic of tropical rainforests is that plants aggressively suck
nutrients from the soil, so the soil is less fertile than most soil
elsewhere.

But, doesn't the parrot poop restore a lot of the nutrients? ;-)

The plants suck that up quickly and aggressively. The soil condition
can be described as such in my words: "It's a jungle out there, and the
plants live by the law of the jungle."

Deforest a tropical rainforest area, and one thing you have is lack of
parrots.

If you want a deforested tropical rainforest area to be reforested, I
can think of 3 options:

1. Wait for nearest remaining forest to expand into the deforested area.
This tends to be slow, and is especially slow in areas near the edge of
where the forest extended to before, since such areas barely supported
forest.

2. Find legumes that can grow there, and have them fertilize the soil.
Hope they don't get devoured to the ground by locusts before they do much
good, or find a way to protect them from locusts for a year or two, or
plant them when locusts are in an "off year" in that area. And I doubt
locusts are the only insects that can devour plants there.

If you have a couple of good years of legume growth, then the soil
should get fairly fertilized by nitrogen compounds from the legumes,
decomposed legume plants, and locust poop and rotting corpses of any
locusts that died there rather than migrating to greener pastures to
retire in.

3. Find air ferns that can grow there. It may be a problem to find ones
that can grow there, then again maybe not. In deforested tropical
rainforest area, I suspect a typical afternoon has temperature peaking at
around 34-35 degrees C with relative humidity at time of high temperature
only about 50%, and that is 4 feet (maybe 1 or 2 meters) above ground
level - closer to the ground in treeless area it gets hotter with lower
relative humidity at time of high temperature.
And same as for legumes, consider locusts and whatever other insects
could find them tasty and have a population explosion.

- Don Klipstein (don@xxxxxxxxx)
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    ... How about letting the Rain Forests inhale it and turn it into habitat? ... One thing I think we need is more conversion of atmospheric CO2 to ... separately from efforts to restore tropical rainforests, ... nutrients from the soil, so the soil is less fertile than most soil ...
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    ... One thing I think we need is more conversion of atmospheric CO2 to ... separately from efforts to restore tropical rainforests, ... nutrients from the soil, so the soil is less fertile than most soil ... doesn't the parrot poop restore a lot of the nutrients? ...
    (sci.electronics.design)
  • Re: OT: is the AGW bubble about to burst?
    ... This requires rainforests gaining biomass. ... One thing I think we need is more conversion of atmospheric CO2 to ... separately from efforts to restore tropical rainforests, ... nutrients from the soil, so the soil is less fertile than most soil ...
    (sci.electronics.design)
  • Re: OT: is the AGW bubble about to burst?
    ... This requires rainforests gaining biomass. ... One thing I think we need is more conversion of atmospheric CO2 to ... separately from efforts to restore tropical rainforests, ... nutrients from the soil, so the soil is less fertile than most soil ...
    (sci.electronics.design)
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