Re: OT: is the AGW bubble about to burst?



Don Klipstein wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
bill.sloman@xxxxxxxx wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Don Klipstein wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

Most sea ice was never on land in the first place. Hence won't ever
affect sea level. Check out the North Pole for example.

Perfectly true and quite irrelevant.

So why is there so green-inspiured much fuss over it ?

1. It is an indicator that there is goobal warming that will do worse
things in the future.

Why do you assume that a warming world has to be 'worse' ? I'm enjoying the
warmer winters in particular and it results in reduced energy use too.


2. Replacing sea ice with sea increasesabsorption of sunlight, so this is
a positive feedback mechanism for global warming.

The incident angle of sunlight at the poles means that this is a minor effect.


3. Loss of Arctic sea ice reduces habitibility of the area in question
for polar bears.

Oh dear. You mean we wiped out N thousand other species and now we're supposed
to get all sentimental over a few less polar bears ? You are aware of the lies
promulgated by Gore et al in this respect I hope ?


The only interesting question is when the Antarctic and Greenland ice
caps are going to slide off into the sea.

A trypically deceptove green statement. The phrase suggests that they're
going to disappear.

They have - of course - been sliding off into the sea pretty
much since they formed, but since we started measuring the rate of ice-
transport within the ice-cap the flow rates have increased appreciably
- more than enough to compensate for any increase in snow-fall onto
the tops of the ice pack - see

So where are the figures showing that the ice mass grows too ?

<SNIP>

the 2001 report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
(IPCC) downplayed the issue, forecasting that snow gathering in the
interior of Antarctica and Greenland would offset faster melting around
the edges.

That would change if manmade global warming progresses to an extent
much beyond that of peak global temperatures of the past interglacial
periods.

Such certainty !

How about accepting that humans have barely the tiniest clue about how the
climate works ?

Graham

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