Re: Global Warming: Junk science at it's [best] worst

On Sep 10, 12:37 am, bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote:
On Sep 10, 4:25 am, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:





On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:45:42 -0700, bill.sloman wrote:
On Sep 9, 9:26 am, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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So, we should _encourage_ global warming, because when it reaches
runaway, it will be like the Biblical Flood, and purge all of the
wicked people off the planet, right?

If it gets serious, global warming will cover rather more of the earth
than the biblical flood, which probably records the flooding of the
Black Sea basin when the Mediterranean broke through the Bosphorus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosporus

It's likely to purge all of the good people as well, along with most
other forms of animal life. The end-Permian mass extinction isn't the
only one that seems to have been caused by global warming.

And, given this, are you claiming that exhorting the maximum number
of people to wring their hands, gnash their teeth, rend their garments,
and submit to your dictates of who should do what when, will change
the course of the Planet's evolution?

Which way?

Try reading George Monbiot's "Heat" - ISBN 0-7139-9924-1 - which sets
out how residents of the U.K. might cut their carbon dioxide output
down to the 0.8 tons per year which might lets us hold global warming
to only 2.0C.

How can CO2 emissions or energy use be cut in the aggregate? What is
the cost?

At the moment., U.K. residents average 9.5 tons per year (US residents
produce about 20 tons).

I take that as evidence that US residents are more productive. You
have to be more productive, and thus richer, to generate that amount
of waste.

I think energy consumption per capita is probably a better measure of
wealth than all of the stats governments come up with.

It looks as if air travel will have to go, but otherwise we can hang
onto a tolerably comfortable modern lifestyle.

I have heard it claimed that a passenger jet -- if fully or near fully
booked -- is in the same neighborhood for energy/beeLine as the
average passenger car (w/ one person). If you look at ticket prices,
and compare it to what it would take to drive, then it seems to be a
reasonable claim. And this is true even though many of the aircraft
in service are old designs and not as efficient as newer aircraft.

Maybe you are already in outer space, and that's why you're trying to
dis our jet travel.

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