Re: Productivity - Norway leads the table.

MooseFET wrote:

On Sep 13, 3:41 am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

MooseFET wrote:

[....]

Still, you can't mix it all together to gauge the effectiveness of a
country's health system.

I don't see why not.

Ok, I give up explaining it.


You were claiming not explaining.


Not so.

Ok, once more: In order to compare the efficiency of health care systems you need to compare diseases where the health system has an early influence. Such as cancer. Here you have a clear cut message: How good is the screening process? How successful is the treatment? Health care has a great deal of impact here. I guess America is performing rather well in this league.

An example for a not so suitable scenario: Heart attack (a major dent in our life expectancy). If people eat to much junk food many will suffer that infamous chest cramp in the wee moring hours. Ambulance gets called, arrives in minutes but it's already too late. A very common scenario and there is next to nothing a country's health system can do to improve that outside educating via TV ads and stuff. IOW health care does _not_ have a great deal of impact here. Strokes kind of fall into the same category.

This is one of many reasons why one cannot simply look at a country's total life expectancy and draw conclusions about quality of health care.


Let me just say that I'm involved in clinical studies since a couple of
decades which is why I asserted that.


This is just another claim. You are now claiming to be an expert of
statistics and to have special knowledge.


Not a claim, it's a fact. But you are free not to believe me. It's good enough if my clients do ;-)

Now I do not claim to be an expert here. What I said is that I do know a bit or two about how clinical studies are handled and how the patient pool is selected, and why. I also happened to marry my first contact into clinical marketing :-)


There are too many other major causes of death,
such as stroke,

That goes up with more fat. See Denmark etc.

And lack of exercise, and sitting on the couch in front of a TV, and ...


People were claiming that it was the american diet that made the
difference. That claim is now, I assert disproven.


So you know that the average diet in the US is not making a difference? Wow, that's quite brazen. To me the average consumption of take-out and burger joint food is mind boggling.

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Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
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