Re: The Electric Car

On Sep 26, 3:59 pm, Charlie Edmondson <edmond...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

Charlie Edmondson wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

Warren Buffett, WillianMookand myself will thank each and every one
of you folks, as each of you step off the edge of your badly polluted,
environment pillaged and damn spendy as hell flat Earth. BTW, say hi
to your global energy domination boss, Hitler, as you fall clean
through the floor of hell. BTW, much the same as Venus, there's no
apparent shortage of renewable energy to burn in hell (sort of
speak).

I used to have an office a couple of floors below Buffet, he know what
he is doing to make money. He ain't investing in H2O2, he's got too
much sense.

BillMookis trying some very interesting ideas in creating economically
viable solar power. He is planning on generating synthetic oil from
solar and coal - no H2O2 anywhere in the picture. He also seems to be
bending metal and making money in the attempt.

Talk to BillMookfor long and you may begin to get the idea he at least has the
touch of the crackpot in him too.

I just hope his lenses work out.

Graham

Ah, but don't we all! Although, my pot ain't cracked. It is just an
irregular seam... ;-)

Yeah, Bill might be a little over the edge, but if he had a string of
his panels (say, 4-5 of them) that he wanted to test under desert
conditions, I would be glad to help him out!

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Tests have been completed on the core design. I'm now putting
together production capabilities.

I'm putting together a several strings of 1,100 panels. Each string
is 4,400 ft long by 8 ft wide - wired together at the factory like
Christmas Tree lights. They are transported on a 52' flatbed trailer
z-folded together.

There are three different types, the same lens system illuminating
different targets, and include;

(1) Silicon based - multi-junction (to reduce parasitic heating) 18%
efficiency. Each 4' x 8' panel containing 4,608 lenses, produce 570
watts electrical under full illumination.

(2) Ge/GaAs/InPh based - multi-junction at 40% efficiency (6
junctions 4 of them GaAs at different doping levels). Each panel
produces 1,266 watts electrical under full illumination.

(3) Anodized aluminum based - thermal heat transfer at 98%
efficiency. Oil is fed through a small anodized aluminum target that
is heated to 220C. The hot oil flows back to an insulated dewar where
it is stored for up to 24 hours. The oil is heated when the sun
shines. The hot oil is stored throughout the day to provide a
constant stream of hot oil that is used in a multi-stage flash
evaporator that efficiently distills sea water or brackish water
continuously.

NOTE ON LENS: A fisheye lens focuses the sun to a small point within
an image plane inside the lens. There, a compound element redirects
the sunlight no matter where it falls on the image plane to a target.
This system has no moving parts and can collect sunlight and
efficiently concentrate it and direct it no matter where it originates
in the sky. This apparent exceeding of the entendue' limit is only
apparent. the compound element actually can be considered thousands
of separate elements each of which operates well within the optical
limits for such devices, even though the separate optical systems all
reuse the same fisheye lens. This is a fundamental improvement in
lens technology. The lens itself consists of thin sheets of PET film
hot press molded into precise optical shapes and then bonded together
using ultrasonic welding in a water bath. The bulk of the lensing
medium is water (actually a special chemical mix that shifts colors
slightly around for greater efficiency) which also acts to cool the
target which is immersed in the lens medium. In this way costs of
less than $0.07 per peak watt are achieved.

LOAD MATCHING: PV devices vary their output based on lighting
conditions. Since lighting conditions vary throughout the day, the
output of PV devices vary from sunrise, to noon, to sunset, and due to
weather. For that reason the amount of power generated by the device
varies. In order to make efficient use of the available power, solar
panels must be attached to loads that precisely match their output.
This is called peak power matching. This intertie requirement,
including converting DC to AC is a fundamental limitation on solar
panel use. I have developed a very low cost method of varying
hydrogen production in a simple alkaline based electrolysis unit. The
unit consists of a plastic drum on its side filled half way with
water. The water stays in the bottom half. Into this drum is also
inserted a number of 'D' shaped stainless steel electrodes. Above
each electrode are two headers that collect hydrogen and oxygen that
form on the surface of each electrode and bubble to the surface of the
water. The water has potassium hydroxide electolyte to improve
conductivity. A simple float system like in your toilet tank controls
water level. The electrodes are suspended by an insulating tube and a
+ and - voltage is applied from the solar panels to the sides of each
tank. The voltage gets evenly divided among the electrodes 2500
electrodes across 20 tanks divide out the 4500 VDC from the panel
string. 550 panels feed one end of the string. 550 panels feed the
other end of the string. 1 lens based CPV device out of each panel,
feeds current to a low resistance load, producing a shunt current.
These are OR'd together to each end producing an estimate of the short
circuit current under the lighting conditions. Another 1 of the 4608
CPV units per panel produce an open circuit voltage, which is OR'd
together with 549 other panels to produce an open circuit voltage
estimate for the string. These two signals are fed into an op-amp
based controller that rotates a servo motor in response to lighting
conditions. This servo, attached to a small nylon gear train/cam
system rotates the D shaped electrodes into and out of solution -
varying the area of the electrodes in response to lighting
conditions. The cam, gear train and op-amps provide a real-time
linear solution to the Nernst equation for the panel/tank setup. The
tank operates at a high pressure, and the oxygen is released through a
blow-down turbine that pressurizes the replacement water fed into the
system.

COST NOTES
The cost of the entire system, including electrolysis units, and
hydrogen gathering system, and pressurization system - is $0.07 per
peak watt - inclusive of the solar panels.

FINANCING PROGRAM:

An 1,100 MW coal fired baseload power plant burns 10,847 tons of coal
each day and produces 33,200 tons of carbon dioxide each day. I enter
a long-term 20 year supply contract with the operators to trade the
coal for 1,750 tons of hydrogen each day, eliminating the carbon.
That way they continue receiving coal and need not break long-term
supply contracts with the coal providers, and when a new hydrogen
fired boiler is added to the system, they have a dual fuel capability.

The avoided carbon can be monetized through the CCX or similar scheme.
Current value of avoided carbon is $18 per ton. A 20 year supply
contract avoids 242 million tons of carbon-dioxide producing credits
that can be sold for $4.3 billion today.

The hydrogen is exchanged for coal, a commodity. A total of 79.2
million tons of coal is committed. At $55 per ton another $4.3
billion of value can be leveraged.

Thus, even though the utility pays nothing for the hydrogen, by
signing an appropriately termed contract, $8.6 billion can be raised
to produce solar panels, electrolysis units, hydrogen distribution,
hydrogen storage and retrieval, and hydrogen fired boilers.

The 1,100 MW plant requires 2,895 MW thermal to operate. This
requires 3,405 MW solar electric (continuous) to supply the hydrogen.
If the collectors are located in a region that receives 1900 hours per
year of sunlight, then 15,712 MW peak solar collecting capacity is
needed. 12.4 million panels or 11,282 strings or 17 square miles - of
collectors are needed. This costs $1.1 billion to install, and takes
the factory I am building 32 days to produce.

The hydrogen is delivered by teflon coated stainless steel pipe at
high pressure, and is stored in empty oil wells. The hydrogen
mobilizes stationary oil, and that oil is separated from the retrieved
hydrogen and sold. A 100 day supply of hydrogen - or 175,000 tons per
1.1 GW of power plant supporte - is maintained.

The 10,847 tons of coal delivered to the power plant each day is
converted at the site by direct high-pressure hydrogenation by a
variant of the Bergius process to 3.2 million gallons of gasoline by
adding 990 tons of hydrogen to the coal. And additional 1,600 tons of
asphalt is also produced. Over $5 million per day is generated from
fuel and asphalt sales. This creates an additional $22 billion in
value - which is retained by me and shared with the power plant
owner. The cost of the hydrogenation reactor is $3.9 billion. The
cost of pipeline, storage retrieval and control systems is $1 billion
for a plant this size (including gasoline gathering).

So, bottom line;

COSTS

$1.1 billion - solar/hydrogen system
$3.9 billion - coal liquefaction/processing
$1.0 billion - extended delivery retrieval
----------------------
$6.0 billion

VALUES

$4.3 billion - carbon credits
$4.3 billion - coal trade value
$22.0 billion - gasoline production
----------------------
$30.6 billion

IMMEDIATE FINANCING

$4.3 billion - carbon credit sales
$2.7 billion - borrowing against coal value
--------------------
$7.0 billion - total early cash


I have two projects underway and I am negotiating for additional
projects. These are overseas in countries that have signed the Kyoto
Protocol.



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